[gentoo-user] Gentoo laptop issues

[gentoo-user] Gentoo laptop issues

[list-catcher]

I just managed to get Gentoo installed on my Presario v6420 which is the
first laptop I've ever had linux on and I've got two problems that I
thought I'd ask the list about:

The most important of the problems involves the fan.  The laptop gets a
whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista while
compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing from my
install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to solve the
problem?

Button #2 of the touchpad, which seems to be set as the upper right corner
of the pad, controls paste (as in cut and paste).  The button works great
at first but then after a period, or it may be related to a heat issue, it
stops working.  Restarting X solves the problem.  I have not noticed it
failing with gpm but I have not stayed in console as long.  Remapping
works but I'd like some pointers on solving this problem.

I've also noticed two seperate clipboards.  One, using the usual middle
click button and another using shift-insert.  These clipboards are
different in what they paste...  Anyone know more about this?

-- 
"All any drug amounts to is tweaking the incoming data. You have to be
incredibly self-centered or pathetic to be satisfied with simply tweaking
the incoming data." -- William Gibson

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[Nikos Chantziaras]

list-catcher wrote:
> I just managed to get Gentoo installed on my Presario v6420 which is the
> first laptop I've ever had linux on and I've got two problems that I
> thought I'd ask the list about:
> 
> The most important of the problems involves the fan.  The laptop gets a
> whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista while
> compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing from my
> install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to solve the
> problem?

sys-apps/lm_sensors

You need to have a kernel which supports your mainboard's and CPU's 
sensors.  With the fancontrol daemon, the fan will be controlled by 
software using user-defined temperature rules (for example, 30C=40% Fan, 
40C=50% Fan, 50C=70% Fan, etc.)


> I've also noticed two seperate clipboards.  One, using the usual middle
> click button and another using shift-insert.  These clipboards are
> different in what they paste...  Anyone know more about this?

This is a feature, not a bug ;)  That way you have a temporary clipboard 
as well as a main clipboard.  I don't know if it can be disabled (since 
I like this feature and therefore never bothered to check how to turn it 
off :P)

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[Miernik]

list-catcher <list-catcher@hellburner.com> wrote:
> The most important of the problems involves the fan. The laptop gets a
> whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista
> while compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing
> from my install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to
> solve the problem?

How about trying some of these:
http://packages.gentoo.org/category/sys-power/?full_cat

> Button #2 of the touchpad, which seems to be set as the upper right
> corner of the pad, controls paste (as in cut and paste).  The button
> works great at first but then after a period, or it may be related to
> a heat issue, it stops working.  Restarting X solves the problem.  I
> have not noticed it failing with gpm but I have not stayed in console
> as long.  Remapping works but I'd like some pointers on solving this
> problem.

Maybe install xev to see if it outputs any data when it "stops working"
so you can see if its a hardware or software problem.

> I've also noticed two seperate clipboards.  One, using the usual
> middle click button and another using shift-insert.  These clipboards
> are different in what they paste...  Anyone know more about this?

Here you can read about it:
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html

-- 
Miernik
http://miernik.name/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[Drew Tomlinson]

Miernik wrote:
> list-catcher <list-catcher@hellburner.com> wrote:
>   
>> The most important of the problems involves the fan. The laptop gets a
>> whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista
>> while compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing
>> from my install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to
>> solve the problem?
>>     

I don't mean to be insulting but are you sure you were "compiling" under 
Vista?  Typically, most users of Windows systems don't "compile".  They 
just install pre-compiled binaries or "packages" if you will.  But maybe 
you are a developer who actually compiles software under Windows...

Anyway, the reason I ask is because unless your were actually running 
your CPU at full load under Windows, it's normal to have your system 
become warmer while emerging packages on Gentoo because you are actually 
"compiling" instead of just installing.

Cheers,

Drew

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[list-catcher]

> The most important of the problems involves the fan.  The laptop gets a
> whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista while
> compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing from my
> install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to solve the
> problem?


After further investigation of the above with the helpful hint of checking
out 'fancontrol' apparently my laptop contains no pwm capable chips.  Now
I suspect this is highly unlikely as the fan speed does indeed change
under vista.  I wonder then if it's just not detecting the chip.  Anyone
know of a utility or way to find my chip?


-- 
"All any drug amounts to is tweaking the incoming data. You have to be
incredibly self-centered or pathetic to be satisfied with simply tweaking
the incoming data." -- William Gibson

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[Vladimir G. Ivanovic]

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My dmesg has this:

ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (39 C)

and then there's

acpitool- a Linux ACPI client, allowing you to query or set ACPI values

Running 'acpitool -t' returns:
   Thermal zone 1 : ok, 61 C
   Trip points :
   -------------
   critical (S5):           100 C

--- Vladimir

on 07/21/2008 03:07 PM list-catcher said the following:
>> The most important of the problems involves the fan.  The laptop gets a
>> whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did using vista while
>> compiling which implies that there is some fan control missing from my
>> install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should I be looking at to solve the
>> problem?
> 
> 
> After further investigation of the above with the helpful hint of checking
> out 'fancontrol' apparently my laptop contains no pwm capable chips.  Now
> I suspect this is highly unlikely as the fan speed does indeed change
> under vista.  I wonder then if it's just not detecting the chip.  Anyone
> know of a utility or way to find my chip?
> 
> 

-- 
Vladimir G. Ivanovic



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo laptop issues

[ionut cucu]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:07:52 -0500 (CDT)
"list-catcher" <list-catcher@hellburner.com> wrote:

> 
> > The most important of the problems involves the fan.  The laptop
> > gets a whole lot hotter using linux while compiling than it did
> > using vista while compiling which implies that there is some fan
> > control missing from my install.  What sort of ebuilds/apps should
> > I be looking at to solve the problem?
I've had an Acer with some "little overheating issues" and it turned
out that if started with a low Cpu temp the fan did not start. But if
memory serves right I've done a script on startup that checked for the
fan's rpm and if 0 it would start it, or something similar. But maybe
that is not your case. You'll find interesting stuff in /proc/acpi/
that may give you some hint about what is going on and take it from
there.

> 
> After further investigation of the above with the helpful hint of
> checking out 'fancontrol' apparently my laptop contains no pwm
> capable chips.  Now I suspect this is highly unlikely as the fan
> speed does indeed change under vista.  I wonder then if it's just not
> detecting the chip.  Anyone know of a utility or way to find my chip?

I'm fairly confident that you can figure that one out with just one
google.