From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKsru-0005UN-H1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2633FE02E3; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FD9E02E3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02466F42 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 required=5.5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o5SU4ZG7wViD for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9C66741B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KKsrf-0007Dj-Bu for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:35 +0000 Received: from apn-77-112-123-233.gprs.plus.pl ([77.112.123.233]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:35 +0000 Received: from public by apn-77-112-123-233.gprs.plus.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:43:35 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Miernik Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:46:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20080721104633.2879.0.NOFFLE@turbacz.local> References: <20080719183723.2115.0.NOFFLE@turbacz.local> <200807192259.29027.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <20080720091506.24A0.0.NOFFLE@turbacz.local> <200807201643.40969.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <20080721060258.27AE.0.NOFFLE@turbacz.local> <87bq0rlkqv.wl%jan.seeger@thenybble.de> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: apn-77-112-123-233.gprs.plus.pl X-Archive: encrypt=none User-Agent: tin/1.9.3-20080506 ("Dalintober") (UNIX) (Linux/2.6.25-2-686 (i686)) Sender: news Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 217d7e68-9918-41ef-b978-41e722c10949 X-Archives-Hash: 90650dfd9334aa83885115f3a1e5c1cc Jan Seeger wrote: > Why? Are you planning on moving?^^ Because how I like my computer to communicate with me, has nothing to do with the territory on which it is located, the computer moved across different territories, my computers are often on different territories that I am, none of the territories the computer or I are frequently located speak the language I want my computer to communicate in, nor do their standard of dates are how I like then to be - I choose them to be based on reason (dates shown from largest unit to smallest), not on tradition or politics. I feel a world citizen, and don't want to be psychologically tied to any single country, nor my computers, I feel its horribly stupid to configure computers based on territory, its an unneeded breach of privacy in case someone looks over my shoulder as I type "locale" and sees a territory, then he/she would think I might have ties to that territory, like if its the police or something, if I put en_US than someone might think I am an US person, while I am not, and I don't want to spend my time wondering which territory I should put in when installing Linux, US, or GB or whatever, I just want a damn simple international english territory neutral locale with dates in the form YYYY-MM-DD and 24-hour clock time and . as the decimal separator (not , as it is in the en_DK locale). Is that so difficult to do? > But have you tried POSIX.UTF-8? > Because it sounds sensible, and thus could be already implemented. Yes, but some errors where encountered: przehyba ~ # locale-gen * Generating 2 locales (this might take a while) with 1 jobs * (1/2) Generating POSIX.UTF-8 ... LC_MONETARY: value of field `int_curr_symbol' has wrong length No definition for LC_PAPER category found No definition for LC_NAME category found No definition for LC_ADDRESS category found No definition for LC_TELEPHONE category found No definition for LC_MEASUREMENT category found No definition for LC_IDENTIFICATION category found [ !! ] * (2/2) Generating en_US.UTF-8 ... [ ok ] * Generation complete przehyba ~ # Not sure if they are a problem. Will try to use that locale and see if I get any problems. However C.UTF-8 doesn't work at all. What's the difference between POSIX and C? Where does the C locale name come from? From the C programming language, or something else? >> And ordering of date - what does that have to do with territory and >> language? I don't care what territory has what ordering commonly used - >> I want to have it in form 2008-07-19, is there a way to do it? > > That's just a shortcut, so you don't have to set every setting > explicitly. If you want, just set the respective LC_* variables, for > example LC_TIME for the right time format. How can I tell to LC_TIME that I want dates in yyyy-mm-dd format, and 24-hour clock time, and if anything wants week or month name, then show it in english? If en_DK locale is invalid for Xlib, and no other english laguage locale has dates in yyyy-mm-dd format? -- Miernik http://miernik.name/