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* [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
@ 2008-07-17 16:04 Grant
  2008-07-17 16:21 ` Justin
  2008-07-17 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Grant @ 2008-07-17 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw
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I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:

<dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
app-admin/python-updater-0.2)

Am I suppose to un-emerge python?

- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:04 [gentoo-user] Unmerge python? Grant
@ 2008-07-17 16:21 ` Justin
  2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
  2008-07-17 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Justin @ 2008-07-17 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Grant schrieb:
> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
>
> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
>
> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
>
> - Grant
>   
Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from 
portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:21 ` Justin
@ 2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Dale
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  0 siblings, 4 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2008-07-17 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
>>
>> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
>> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
>>
>> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>
> Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from
> portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.

'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged?  I'm
being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.

- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:04 [gentoo-user] Unmerge python? Grant
  2008-07-17 16:21 ` Justin
@ 2008-07-17 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2008-07-17 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:17 -0700, Grant wrote:

> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
> 
> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
> 
> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?

Only if you already have python:2.4 installed. Either way, quickpkg
python before you do anything rash.


-- 
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
@ 2008-07-17 16:41     ` Dale
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Justin
                       ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2008-07-17 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Grant wrote:
>>> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
>>>
>>> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
>>> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
>>>
>>> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
>>>
>>> - Grant
>>>
>>>       
>> Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from
>> portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.
>>     
>
> 'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
> Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
> python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged?  I'm
> being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.
>
> - Grant
>   

If memory serves me correct, update python with the new slot, run 
python-updater and then you should be able to unmerge the old python.  I 
would double check to make sure nothing depends on the old one before 
removing it tho.  Python is something you do not want to be without.  I 
seem to recall that portage uses python so removing it would be . . . 
'bad'. 

As was mentioned in another thread, you can set it up so that portage 
will save a copy of your packages just in case.  You can set it to do 
them all or just the system ones.  I think everybody should have it set 
to at least system. 

Dale

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Dale
@ 2008-07-17 16:41     ` Justin
  2008-07-22 20:40       ` Grant
  2008-07-17 16:43     ` s3b4sm4gr1
  2008-07-17 17:25     ` Alan McKinnon
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Justin @ 2008-07-17 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Grant schrieb:
>>> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
>>>
>>> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
>>> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
>>>
>>> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
>>>
>>> - Grant
>>>
>>>       
>> Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from
>> portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.
>>     
>
> 'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
> Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
> python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged?  I'm
> being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.
>
> - Grant
>   
NO, do not unemerge python befor installing the new one!!!

It looks like your python is quite old. do you have version 2.4 
installed? Then just do emerge -C =dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 and run 
python-updater afterwards. Otherwise try to emerge python 2.5 in the new 
slot, run the python-updater and remove version 2.3 afterwards.
Nevertheless after updating  python-updater you should run " 
python-updater -ee -v -p" to see what should be still updated.


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Dale
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Justin
@ 2008-07-17 16:43     ` s3b4sm4gr1
  2008-07-17 17:25     ` Alan McKinnon
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: s3b4sm4gr1 @ 2008-07-17 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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2008/7/18 Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com>:

> >> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
> >>
> >> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
> >> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
> >>
> >> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
> >>
> >> - Grant
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from
> > portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.
>
> 'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
> Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
> python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged?  I'm
> being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.


You should emerge python-2.5, then run python-updater and then unmerge old
python...


>
>
> - Grant
> --
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>
>


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:35   ` Grant
                       ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2008-07-17 16:43     ` s3b4sm4gr1
@ 2008-07-17 17:25     ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-07-17 17:46       ` Dirk Heinrichs
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2008-07-17 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 17 July 2008, Grant wrote:

> 'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
> Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
> python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged? 
> I'm being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.

Nooooooooooo! You can't have a gentoo system without python - portage 
heavily uses python scripts. This is even worse than unmerging gcc.

The general sequence (and ALWAYS read the ebuilds - especially the 
*DEPEND sections and act appropriately) is:

merge new python in new SLOT
run python updater
check carefully that everything works properly
unmerge python in old SLOT

"A stitch in time" is your watchword here

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 17:25     ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2008-07-17 17:46       ` Dirk Heinrichs
  2008-07-17 18:05         ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dirk Heinrichs @ 2008-07-17 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 schrieb Alan McKinnon:

> Nooooooooooo! You can't have a gentoo system without python

Yes, you can, as long as you don't use portage.

Bye...

	Dirk

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 17:46       ` Dirk Heinrichs
@ 2008-07-17 18:05         ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2008-07-17 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 17 July 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2008 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> > Nooooooooooo! You can't have a gentoo system without python
>
> Yes, you can, as long as you don't use portage.


That'll teach me to be less vague more specific :-)



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-17 16:41     ` Justin
@ 2008-07-22 20:40       ` Grant
  2008-07-22 21:42         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
  2008-07-22 22:08         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2008-07-22 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>>>> I'm getting the following from portage on a critical remote system:
>>>>
>>>> <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking app-admin/python-updater-0.5,
>>>> app-admin/python-updater-0.2)
>>>>
>>>> Am I suppose to un-emerge python?
>>>>
>>>> - Grant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you should update your python. Version 2.3 will be removed from
>>> portage and is currently hardmasked. That triggers the depency bump.
>>>
>>
>> 'emerge -pv python' wants to install python-2.5.2-r5 in a new slot.
>> Should I unmerge python, emerge the new python, and run
>> python-updater?  Will portage work once python has been unmerged?  I'm
>> being cautious because this is a highly critical system for me.
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>
> NO, do not unemerge python befor installing the new one!!!
>
> It looks like your python is quite old. do you have version 2.4 installed?
> Then just do emerge -C =dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 and run python-updater
> afterwards. Otherwise try to emerge python 2.5 in the new slot, run the
> python-updater and remove version 2.3 afterwards.
> Nevertheless after updating  python-updater you should run " python-updater
> -ee -v -p" to see what should be still updated.

I've emerged python-2.5 in the new slot, but I can't upgrade from
python-updater-0.2 to python-updater-0.5 until I un-emerge python-2.3.
 Should I run python-updater-0.2 now, or un-emerge python-2.3, update
to python-updater-0.5, and run that?  If it depends on if I have
python-2.4 installed or not, how can I check on that?

- Grant



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* [gentoo-user]  Re: Unmerge python?
  2008-07-22 20:40       ` Grant
@ 2008-07-22 21:42         ` Nikos Chantziaras
  2008-07-22 22:32           ` Grant
  2008-07-22 22:08         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2008-07-22 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Grant wrote:
> I've emerged python-2.5 in the new slot, but I can't upgrade from
> python-updater-0.2 to python-updater-0.5 until I un-emerge python-2.3.

That shouldn't happen; there's no rationale in this, unless I'm missing 
something.

> Should I run python-updater-0.2 now, or un-emerge python-2.3, update
> to python-updater-0.5, and run that?  If it depends on if I have
> python-2.4 installed or not, how can I check on that?

You shouldn't unmerge old python unless the new one is made fully 
functional.  Post the exact error emerge gives when you try to update 
python-updater.




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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-22 20:40       ` Grant
  2008-07-22 21:42         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2008-07-22 22:08         ` Neil Bothwick
  2008-07-22 22:13           ` Albert Hopkins
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2008-07-22 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:40:33 -0700, Grant wrote:

> Should I run python-updater-0.2 now, or un-emerge python-2.3, update
> to python-updater-0.5, and run that?

The safest course is run python-updater-0.2, unmerge python-2.3, update
python-updater then run the new version.

You shouldn't break too much by unmerging the old version before you run
python-updater. A few things may not work, but portage will be fine. As
with any important system package, quickpkg it before unmerging.


-- 
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerge python?
  2008-07-22 22:08         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
@ 2008-07-22 22:13           ` Albert Hopkins
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Albert Hopkins @ 2008-07-22 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 23:08 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> The safest course is run python-updater-0.2, unmerge python-2.3,
> update
> python-updater then run the new version.
> 
> You shouldn't break too much by unmerging the old version before you
> run
> python-updater. A few things may not work, but portage will be fine.
> As
> with any important system package, quickpkg it before unmerging.
> 
Except I don't think python-updator will know what the old version of
python was so you might have to pass -o 2.3 or whatever.

What *I* would do, and the reason why I think you're having so the
trouble, is that you skipped 2.4.  I would go from 2.3 to 2.4, run
python-updater, then go from 2.4 to 2.5 and run python-updater again.

-a





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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unmerge python?
  2008-07-22 21:42         ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2008-07-22 22:32           ` Grant
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2008-07-22 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>> I've emerged python-2.5 in the new slot, but I can't upgrade from
>> python-updater-0.2 to python-updater-0.5 until I un-emerge python-2.3.
>
> That shouldn't happen; there's no rationale in this, unless I'm missing
> something.
>
>> Should I run python-updater-0.2 now, or un-emerge python-2.3, update
>> to python-updater-0.5, and run that?  If it depends on if I have
>> python-2.4 installed or not, how can I check on that?
>
> You shouldn't unmerge old python unless the new one is made fully
> functional.  Post the exact error emerge gives when you try to update
> python-updater.

# emerge -pv python-updater

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/python-updater-0.5 [0.2] 6 kB
[blocks B     ] <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 (is blocking
app-admin/python-updater-0.5, app-admin/python-updater-0.2)

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade, 1 block), Size of downloads: 6 kB

- Grant



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