[gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[Richard]

Dear all,

I use Evolution as my mail client. I receive Gentoo mailing list email
at my GMail address, and access this email in Evolution over IMAP.

I want Gentoo mailing list messages to go into a Gentoo mailing list
folder in Evolution, and so I've setup an incoming mail filter to take
all mail with a sender or recipient address matching '@lists.gentoo.org'
and move it to my Gentoo mailing list folder.

Despite ticking the 'Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this
server' check-box in the Evolution Account Editor, I have to highlight
new email and click 'Apply Filters' in Evolution's 'Message' menu so
that Evolution will actually move them to the desired folder.

Can anyone help with this?

Thanks in advance,
Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[Patric Schmitz]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:27:24 +0100
Richard <skitfish@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I use Evolution as my mail client. I receive Gentoo mailing list email
> at my GMail address, and access this email in Evolution over IMAP.
> 
> I want Gentoo mailing list messages to go into a Gentoo mailing list
> folder in Evolution, and so I've setup an incoming mail filter to take
> all mail with a sender or recipient address matching
> '@lists.gentoo.org' and move it to my Gentoo mailing list folder.

I had a similar problem with Thunderbird and IMAP. The problem was that
"Sender" is not amongst the standard headers which TB retrieves per
default for newly arrived messaged. 
I had to somehow tell TB to "fetch all headers", don't remember exactly
how, since I'm using claws now.

> Despite ticking the 'Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this
> server' check-box in the Evolution Account Editor, I have to highlight
> new email and click 'Apply Filters' in Evolution's 'Message' menu so
> that Evolution will actually move them to the desired folder.
> 
> Can anyone help with this?

This is just a guess, i haven't used evolution actually, but look for
a retrieve option "fetch all mail headers" or something, it might be
the same issue.

HTH,
Patric Schmitz
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[Hilco Wijbenga]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Richard <skitfish@gmail.com> wrote:
> Despite ticking the 'Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this
> server' check-box in the Evolution Account Editor, I have to highlight
> new email and click 'Apply Filters' in Evolution's 'Message' menu so
> that Evolution will actually move them to the desired folder.

I had the exact same problem. I'm afraid I didn't find a solution.
Google found multiple threads about this, some even with a "solution"
but nothing worked for me. You may have better luck, if so, please
share. As far as I can tell, this rather basic feature simply doesn't
work with evolution. :-(

Cheers,
Hilco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[Gordon Schulz]

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:27, Richard <skitfish@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use Evolution as my mail client. I receive Gentoo mailing list email
> at my GMail address, and access this email in Evolution over IMAP.
> 
> I want Gentoo mailing list messages to go into a Gentoo mailing list
> folder in Evolution, and so I've setup an incoming mail filter to take
> all mail with a sender or recipient address matching '@lists.gentoo.org'
> and move it to my Gentoo mailing list folder.

Maybe I am missing something here, but... Why not just let GMail apply a
label to the gentoo-mails and skip Inbox? That way they would show
up in a folder serverside and Evolution wouldn't have to do anything at
all.
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Greetings,
	Gordon.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution Doesn't Filter Incoming Mail

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:27 +0100, Richard wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I use Evolution as my mail client. I receive Gentoo mailing list email
> at my GMail address, and access this email in Evolution over IMAP.
> 
> I want Gentoo mailing list messages to go into a Gentoo mailing list
> folder in Evolution, and so I've setup an incoming mail filter to take
> all mail with a sender or recipient address matching '@lists.gentoo.org'
> and move it to my Gentoo mailing list folder.
> 
> Despite ticking the 'Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this
> server' check-box in the Evolution Account Editor, I have to highlight
> new email and click 'Apply Filters' in Evolution's 'Message' menu so
> that Evolution will actually move them to the desired folder.
> 
> Can anyone help with this?

Yes and no!  I can explain why, but I don't know the workaround. - there
are various "bits" of info set on each email in IMAP folders (eg,
"unread", "replied to", "important", etc) and there's one (forget the
name) lets say "accessed".  MUA's use this accessed bit to decide
whether or not to do processing, such as filtering, on each email.
Evolution would filter a message and then set "accessed".  It does this
so that next time, it doesn't filter it again (I presume).  It is
typical for IMAP servers that do their own filtering to set this
accessed bit on each message also, even if it stays in the inbox.  (I
don't know if there's a gmail setting for this type of thing).

The same happens on my cyrus IMAP server, because I have sieve rules
going through my mails on the server-side.  Therefore evolution sees the
messages as already accessed, and doesn't touch it (unless you
specifically say "filter").

I've put this together from bits and pieces of experience, so it's
probably not technically correct, but I hope you get the general idea :)

cya,
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