From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KHx9b-0007fi-GO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:41:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E9D8E00AD; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED21CE00AD for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id w53so3041072pyg.25 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:41:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=2MeoVKn7ZAI87lWq2lJFOY3C3LDtxZy+uEJ7YYg1X4s=; b=oTqyTeyPKuqQjPntZ7vYyK3Os293cHLU1FhqnzwvgU+gXJk+LhozPCMycgvxp9DNlV pAA3/q77H05/VHbeKibjA1PjdzZdhHDCDnDSNUGXs1BJZYr3dUrK6MQNBlOXVcz0xZUt k4bhtXq9U/jrOgIGXHu8IFI0zD1ca/3DuPmms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=hiph9xpaZz3Ef/BsuBF/5GGiRjP8F5SkJPFaxehpNTfL41+biZJTxEC1FwF4fdbYuI rCDV0AHjDWBzxV45J5eHgbzEHwxJUbJoooCopBLrrVlw+XhKd29SrcfdD3Of7z8ipKcP r/8dl1ndEFn8v4cmjVtguxU4qRN/0vNdN00dQ= Received: by 10.64.242.5 with SMTP id p5mr14026747qbh.5.1215938517411; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.208.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm1457802qba.4.2008.07.13.01.41.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:42:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080712014838.GL5036@syscon2.inet> <200807120943.11579.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20080712205106.0cd1ef0e@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080712205106.0cd1ef0e@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807131042.27426.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 6f032240-58fe-4852-958a-5eaabc659dce X-Archives-Hash: 9bdb2f32f5d87267a34243e077a23ca5 On Saturday 12 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is > > something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar > > and zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it. > > Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on > Windows, but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to > kill. Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install itself. When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart. When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show them wubi... :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list