[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Joseph]

How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported this type of installation?
I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy task.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get rid of CD all together. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Albert Hopkins]

On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 19:48 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported this type of installation?
> I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy task.
> 
> The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get rid of CD all together. 

I personally have installed Gentoo from USB stick (RIPLinux) many times
without any issues.  There's really no difference.

With the way the Gentoo works, all you really need for an install is
bootable Linux that can talk to your devices... That's one of the great
things about Gentoo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Joseph]

On 07/11/08 20:55, Albert Hopkins wrote:
>On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 19:48 -0600, Joseph wrote:
>> How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported this type of installation?
>> I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy task.
>> 
>> The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get rid of CD all together. 
>
>I personally have installed Gentoo from USB stick (RIPLinux) many times
>without any issues.  There's really no difference.
>
>With the way the Gentoo works, all you really need for an install is
>bootable Linux that can talk to your devices... That's one of the great
>things about Gentoo.
>
>
>-a

How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Albert Hopkins]

On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 20:33 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?

The short answer is "who says it has to be a bootable CD image?".  There
are plenty of USB-based linux images out there... just use one of those.

Slightly longer answer: If it's a syslinux-like CD, dd the mbr.bin to
the stick, and copy the rest of the contents to the 1st partition.  That
should do it.*

* Haven't tested, but that should be the +/- the way of doing it.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 12 July 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 20:33 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> > How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?
>
> The short answer is "who says it has to be a bootable CD image?". 
> There are plenty of USB-based linux images out there... just use one
> of those.

I've done it this way too. All you really need is a system running that 
can chroot and unpack the stage 3 and portage tarballs. Like Albert I 
happened to use RIPLinux - very small, supports just about everything.

You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Robert Bridge]

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
> something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
> zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

Argh... Now I feel this urge to achieve that! 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Samstag, 12. Juli 2008 schrieb Robert Bridge:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200
>
> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is
> > something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and
> > zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.
>
> Argh... Now I feel this urge to achieve that!

I'm sure you can resist ;-)

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
> something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
> zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on Windows,
but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to kill.

I installed my Eee from an SD card containing EeexUbunbtu. As you say,
anything that gives you a working Linux system will serve as an install
platform.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 12 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is
> > something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar
> > and zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.
>
> Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on
> Windows, but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to
> kill.

Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think 
installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a 
program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install 
itself.

When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by 
themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by 
one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes 
it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be 
the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.

When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show 
them wubi... :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[liu shukui]

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think
> installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a
> program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install
> itself.
>
> When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by
> themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by
> one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes
> it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be
> the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.
>
> When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show
> them wubi... :-)
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[gentoo-user] Re: Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Miernik]

Joseph <syscon@interbaun.com> wrote:
> How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially
> supported this type of installation?  I can find instruction here and
> there; and some notes that is not an easy task.

I did it two times. Just followed the instructions here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[jalves]

Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
to do.

(I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
 home if you still need to know).

-Jeremy

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
> How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
> this type of installation?
> I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
> task.
>
> The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
> rid of CD all together. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:19:45 -0700 jalves <jalves-gentoo-user@area.com> wrote:

> Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
> to do.
>
> (I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
>  home if you still need to know).
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
>> How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
>> this type of installation?
>> I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
>> task.
>>
>> The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
>> rid of CD all together. 

I not done it but you might try
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

[Iain Buchanan]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 04:19 -0700, jalves wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
> > How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
> > this type of installation?
> > I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
> > task.
> >
> > The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
> > rid of CD all together. 
> 
> Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
> to do.
> 
> (I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
>  home if you still need to know).
> 
> -Jeremy

You can "install" gentoo from anything that can boot the livecd (I
think).  I've written some instructions on how to get the livecd onto a
usb key - it's surprisingly simple.  I used it to install this laptop :)

see
http://nthrbldyblg.blogspot.com/2008/06/gentoo-linux-live-usb-key.html

I would appreciate any suggestions and improvements to the steps, if you
end up trying it.

HTH,
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