From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFoa0-0004sW-4i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:08:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85EF5E0439; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2794AE0439 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1294627fga.14 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:08:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lp9HfG8wcocubZ6sO1mC240NwpUXHebwqy65bppPztc=; b=BRA7UcIaPgcmXBtH/+TsUNpf6Dpqu2XkbS7wBdNudtz+V+Ya8OwwcAG3SYM6Z3Rbpk HWEKpjGueDK8pmRSu2m0X3zofmtg92RkphNUEaVKqoPwDvCzV4ECcoN7Nwb5TR2k9s+/ 4hwaMPt0XbRwa4oz+yPl+8qEFiBp9QlzEfTzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=axX0VHGrpujxsXVrOzyOMpyOyDLm8cqMJBIdEdO6fWbSTrxVNlzqdqy6L92ZG/+Kt0 8S2GU9Bv6f0IKL9gT5z3Rl6wej4vdiZkadjravWlRkz348iNOtN2LgRs/hbSNYFrIfxw cNgBNA9v4oBFMzoLWnKCMXWpl8qIYdSNM69Vg= Received: by 10.86.28.2 with SMTP id b2mr4032259fgb.20.1215428901446; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilievnet.com ( [84.21.204.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm4699188fga.8.2008.07.07.04.08.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:08:13 +0300 From: Daniel Iliev To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit && emerge -av cdrtools Message-ID: <20080707140813.0d876cbe@ilievnet.com> In-Reply-To: <4871def1.srqmLwgcR5gyNF+P%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <486F599D.4090606@konstantinhansen.de> <200807061729.47921.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4870f116.QK7RcdN+vW0tJtGN%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200807062035.21483.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <48711a2e.ubKRGLogmitzpet1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <48714198.5000406@paradise.net.nz> <4871def1.srqmLwgcR5gyNF+P%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 63713113-347b-45f6-ac0e-73fe564f0a48 X-Archives-Hash: 023b655cc6015d83c9f44a04da17144d On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:16:33 +0200 Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > > > Do you know what defamation and slander is? > > > > > > If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there > > > was no problem. It therefore seems to be important to prevent > > > underlying "messages"....... > > > > Do you understand opinion? This is the heart of the matter. Your > > mention of lawyers does not change this - as legal opinion is > > merely an opinion that costs some money! (if your lawyer says !Z it > > does not stop another one saying Z)... > > > Short answer: in a democracy, your freedom ends where you may start > to influence the freedom of others. > How about stopping these reoccurring advertisements of cdrtools on "gentoo-user"? They influence my freedom to use the list for what it is meant to be used: Gentoo-only related stuff. > > Long answer: > > If you repeat the "opinion" of other people, you make it _your_ > opinion and if your opinion may harm other people, you are not > allowed to publish it unless you are able to definitely prove it! > Here is a fact for you: Every mainstream binary distro dropped cdrtools. It is their right to choose which packets they want to distribute and they don't owe you an explanation. You claim (unfortunately on this list) that it is an attack against you and there is no problem with your precious package. Care to "definitely prove it"? > I am the author and I tell you that there is no problem. I am the > only person who could sue you and I can't if I did tell you before > that there is no problem. > You may tell whatever you want but... You are not the ONLY author. There is other people's copyrighted work in cdrtools. Are you authorized to speak on their behalf? -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list