From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFQEj-0003GX-KJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:08:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EEE8E0352; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9E9E0352 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so481930nfi.26 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=Cxg8HsIL76n4BzvxpjaQ9m9ZABB08AHMpBz/4UISfMU=; b=q75SuXcFoyBT9FMyi1l2FIKS2+bYD6p4cSMq3D0ST1j4SE7Swg2ht13V2iaTExr/Kf H9/WoRTN5PxFeHPbhzveWD7AmX2QrDIjA3/Y1ENw6Jh3cywqDussS12/E4V2JrBU9yXS hdYq19dqitMTvB/PXao8CM8K/LKdA9ZjCF5NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=v+gQZ5HkgNWw9FarxoGL+uDxwoqbi+egK0+ET2+2wh8Xwa7ScVSFRbQIp7aHHh9Sks +lObTC9nidFGHkA/8NTe1+iuIRjQjI3ogBkPRil+JmFt2ctD8Qu3S+8+1dw/C3VJ9ETL HYa6cKtsAuYFfS3iELXX/yBSW7hkFqScRA+Pc= Received: by 10.210.47.7 with SMTP id u7mr1959805ebu.14.1215335326169; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lappy.study ( [212.159.46.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm4119691gve.8.2008.07.06.02.08.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:08:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:08:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080703174838.5415a54a@NOTE_GENTOO64.PHHEIMNETZ> <20080705183954.31fc875f@NOTE_GENTOO64.PHHEIMNETZ> <200807052214.28298.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200807052214.28298.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart19625490.cRVNKFNNpE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200807061008.42001.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 0c08b987-f40a-4fff-ab53-b3539b48c548 X-Archives-Hash: 70a81840e0288f0cbd0c644f370dd8c9 --nextPart19625490.cRVNKFNNpE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 05 July 2008, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:06:31 +0100 > > > > Then I've installed grub into hda's MBR. Then something odd happened: > > Stage1.5 loads quiet fast but then Grub hangs once again of ~20sec > > with: "Grub loading, please wait ..." > > > > Since that is the moment when Grub accesses /dev/hdd for the first > > time, I think it could really be a problem with the hard disk, however, > > one that doesn't affect anything else. Maybe an automatic SMART > > self-test at boot-up? I'll investigate and as a workaround I'll get an > > SD-card or cheap USB-stick for Grub, since - unfortunately - the kernel > > is too big to fit on a floppy. > > I know what I would have done - right from the start. Not used > grub-install. Not installed it in every single disk. Not installed it in > any partition, unless I intended to chainload separately the GRUB > bootloader of the said partition. Now, I know that this doesn't help and > won't resolve your issue, but perhaps next time . . . > > I am not sure how GRUB goes about probing and reading boot sectors at boot > time. As I understand it at the time it is installed in an MBR, the > position of the grub fs is also written in there right after the boot cod= e. > At boot time the boot code (stage1) jumps to the block device where grub= 's > root fs is stored to read and execute stage1.5 which can read the /boot > device fs and then read the stage2 files, which finally go and load the > main OS kernel image. Assuming this is correct, then what you have > installed in the MBR of hdb and hdd and the partition boot sector of hdd1 > is irrelevant and it *should not* make grub take so long. > > That's the reason why I said something hardware-wise may be amiss, althou= gh > I can see that your checks and reasoning are sound. Just in case, you may want to try this: # grub <--Also use --no-floppy if it hangs probing a floppy drive that=20 doesn't exist--> grub> root (hd2,0) <--If your /boot drive is e.g. in /dev/hdd1)--> grub> setup (hd0) <--This will re-install GRUB in the MBR of /dev/hda--> grub> quit If this does not help then I am not sure what else might fix it. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart19625490.cRVNKFNNpE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhwi5kACgkQ5Fp0QerLYPeo2ACeL3IO2Geg8WfgA2O9LgL3zesd A2MAoMZ/WwH1VHTlC36qovbw7M7L8eo7 =1Zwo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart19625490.cRVNKFNNpE-- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list