From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-81577-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1KFF5X-0002UL-EV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:14:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C282E047A; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6FE047A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so444200nfi.26 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=SRp5SxtWxrhSNEFdtmMRddUcudae7GGwaBpKB+sPHiE=; b=cquyTOguIqfPKRluU9NRCQaeZb4ZarAuQvSCXFY9x24EuQ7syZAN3ezTbyNtJWTIVE EHnTO2G+tN8ITxBwJf2l++KKhx8IXoZG9053HdCpBKOQLgmbo0NqnvEQSuOTrbA+9ZIg EBpd8Nw6WabxVCiuZGnWrvk/1PAAOfaSQohgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=Mc2xUkdJ+9BtyXLh/T6giHHddnevSeOWbDh6pcPeayeGpYzosJnXfruohiUz0jWDlm 7N7xxEEWyu7XFQ+WSgKTFeDO35Err1hXRtNi83PhnpvYyWE4IDYzN2cuoKwndDyA+em0 i0urtd7o+b6x08eMIIclFvx/FANbNQnhU/0/A= Received: by 10.210.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr1570676ebh.122.1215292471998; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lappy.study ( [212.159.46.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm3185552gve.8.2008.07.05.14.14.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:14:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:14:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080703174838.5415a54a@NOTE_GENTOO64.PHHEIMNETZ> <200807051506.40344.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20080705183954.31fc875f@NOTE_GENTOO64.PHHEIMNETZ> In-Reply-To: <20080705183954.31fc875f@NOTE_GENTOO64.PHHEIMNETZ> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2879896.8gezLE1bW4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200807052214.28298.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ad24d4bb-f0d2-4877-82bb-a8462b84f9ec X-Archives-Hash: a3b5f7aaa6dfc7aca9396d957294f8a3 --nextPart2879896.8gezLE1bW4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:06:31 +0100 > Then I've installed grub into hda's MBR. Then something odd happened: > Stage1.5 loads quiet fast but then Grub hangs once again of ~20sec > with: "Grub loading, please wait ..." > > Since that is the moment when Grub accesses /dev/hdd for the first > time, I think it could really be a problem with the hard disk, however, > one that doesn't affect anything else. Maybe an automatic SMART > self-test at boot-up? I'll investigate and as a workaround I'll get an > SD-card or cheap USB-stick for Grub, since - unfortunately - the kernel > is too big to fit on a floppy. I know what I would have done - right from the start. Not used grub-instal= l. =20 Not installed it in every single disk. Not installed it in any partition,= =20 unless I intended to chainload separately the GRUB bootloader of the said=20 partition. Now, I know that this doesn't help and won't resolve your issue= ,=20 but perhaps next time . . . I am not sure how GRUB goes about probing and reading boot sectors at boot= =20 time. As I understand it at the time it is installed in an MBR, the positi= on=20 of the grub fs is also written in there right after the boot code. At boot= =20 time the boot code (stage1) jumps to the block device where grub's root fs = is=20 stored to read and execute stage1.5 which can read the /boot device fs and= =20 then read the stage2 files, which finally go and load the main OS kernel=20 image. Assuming this is correct, then what you have installed in the MBR o= f=20 hdb and hdd and the partition boot sector of hdd1 is irrelevant and it=20 *should not* make grub take so long. That's the reason why I said something hardware-wise may be amiss, although= I=20 can see that your checks and reasoning are sound. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2879896.8gezLE1bW4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhv5DQACgkQ5Fp0QerLYPe1wQCgpiDrHNiN6VTgz7WfsDij9Hqs viwAnRkbWR4bdqsC5HFp+Tp/xTcHHiyb =HNDd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2879896.8gezLE1bW4-- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list