From: Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:23:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080703232316.GC12976@nibiru.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <486c9410.auL2rSv/4Uz61o5x%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
* Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> > BTW: a friend of mine is lawyer and music producer. I'm trying
> > to convince him to admonish those companies which intentionally
> > sell broken products ... would be nice if he'd really do this :)
> > Joerg, do you feel confident enough in the area to provide a
> > expertise which could stand in court ?
>
> I tries to do this via the "Verbraucherzentrale" - they have not been
> interested.
Did you expect something useful from them as long as they're
ruled by trolls like Seehofer ? ;-P
> You first need to check whether you may sue someone at all if you are
> not the "Verbraucherzentrale".
Well, depends on from which side you want to attack:
a) competition law violation: you have to be a competitor or represent
an reasonably large part of the market to be alled to file a suite.
b) they've sold a defective product, and so you're going to hold them
responsible for compensation
c) you see this as an defraud and press criminal charges.
> What you may do is to forbid mixing these non-CDs with standard compliant
> media in the same rack in a shop and you may force the shops to add hints
> that "the rack to the left" does not include CDs.
Yep, that would be the shop's resposibility, followed on the consumer
protection law. Another side is directly attacking the producer.
BUT: for now we have *far more critical* problems in our country.
Our goverment is obviously guilty of high treason, not just by
"EU constitution"/Lissabon contract.
In Bavaria, they even go that far to directly ignore an recent
contitutional court decision and legalize terroristic attacks
by officials. Soon we're at the point where the basic right for
violent resistent becomes active ...
cu
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2008-06-25 20:21 [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Yoav Luft
2008-06-25 21:01 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-25 21:50 ` John covici
2008-06-26 9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 10:23 ` John covici
2008-06-26 10:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:06 ` John covici
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:20 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:34 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:57 ` John covici
2008-06-26 12:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 21:09 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 21:23 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 22:32 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-27 8:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:16 ` [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-03 8:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:23 ` Enrico Weigelt [this message]
2008-07-04 10:32 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 21:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:00 ` [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Alan McKinnon
2008-06-27 9:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:50 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 9:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 10:06 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 18:50 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-27 22:20 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 22:53 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 9:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 1:41 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 9:26 ` Stroller
2008-06-28 11:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:54 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:59 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 1:11 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 1:55 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-29 9:42 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 10:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 10:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 12:29 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 13:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:28 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 15:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 21:50 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 22:13 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 23:15 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 23:28 ` Mike Edenfield
2008-07-01 9:22 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 7:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-03 3:42 ` Aaron Clark
2008-07-03 12:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <48678d82.rmfIMzIpF6v323D6%Joerg.Sch illing@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
2008-06-29 14:49 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-06-28 12:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-28 12:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:05 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 11:47 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 13:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 14:02 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 19:10 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:08 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 17:29 ` brullo nulla
2008-07-01 8:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 19:00 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 16:41 ` Stroller
2008-06-28 10:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:47 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 0:00 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 12:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:51 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 18:33 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 9:50 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:18 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 16:23 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 23:43 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-06-30 8:47 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 18:24 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-07-01 12:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 12:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 11:44 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 18:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-07-01 11:39 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 22:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 13:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-01 11:05 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-28 12:14 ` Mick
2008-06-28 12:25 ` John covici
2008-06-29 10:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:21 ` Yoav Luft
2008-06-27 9:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:02 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:35 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-04 10:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 13:34 ` John covici
2008-07-04 13:51 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-07-04 21:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:42 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 5:53 ` Stroller
2008-06-26 7:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-26 12:08 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-26 13:38 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-26 15:00 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 1:38 ` W.Kenworthy
2008-06-26 10:21 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 3:26 ` Mark Shields
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