From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCZG0-0008Uj-LR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD7CBE03FB; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.21]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F9FE03FB for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 0835620A950 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF11720A94B for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:10:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [139.174.197.94] (account wevah HELO energy.localnet) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.4) with ESMTPSA id 35463353 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:10:17 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:10:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.52 (Linux/2.6.26-rc8r4; KDE/4.0.83; x86_64; ; ) References: <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806281410.07306.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V5.4 at tu-clausthal.de X-Archives-Salt: 2cd203b9-d131-4d9b-9ea4-d5fd43696394 X-Archives-Hash: d86219c36fb4c8a65bb53d55b43caa6e Hi, J=F6rg, you do have a point (or two) and guys? Cut him some slack, ok?=20 I had my 'clashes' with him in the past, and yes, sometimes he is tiresome = to=20 deal with or too tempting to provoke him, but this whole mess is really not= =20 his fault or only to a very small part that could easily explained with=20 miscommunication. After all this years reading mails and postings he wrote = I=20 came to the conclusion that the biggest problem is a certain lack of people= =20 skills he haa. He is a great programmer but sometimes has problems to sell = his=20 ideas/thoughts/points. A lot of times I thought 'gosh, he is right, but sa= dly=20 he just said it in the worst way possible'. J=F6rg, I don't want to attack = you,=20 it is just an observation. I have the uttermost respect for your programmin= g=20 skills/talent and knowledge about SCSI and everything related. His cdrtools is usually in top shape and while everybody is free to disagre= e=20 with some of his choices, nobody should attack him like some in this thread= =2E=20 If he says that cdrkit&co have bugs cdrtools has not, I believe him. I don'= t=20 even google for it. Because whatever altercations you have or want to have= =20 with him - he knows his software and he fixes the bugs that pop up (except = in=20 cases when people think there is a bug and J=F6rg thinks otherwise, but hey= that=20 is no good reason to bash him). He is doing this for a long time - some=20 members of this list might not even be borne when he started writiting=20 software. And how many devs are actively strolling distribution bugzillas a= nd=20 mailing lists like him, looking for problems people might have with softwar= e=20 he created or maintains? So, why not read the information on his page, google a bit, look for yourse= lf=20 =2D and admit, that J=F6rg is not the big evil just a little bit lacking on= the=20 'sell my points' front. Even if he likes Solaris more like Linux. So could this fruitless near-flaming stop right here? The thread has long=20 passed its use by date. Gl=FCck Auf, Volker -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list