From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCEIk-0005sq-BR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:47:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECF9CE02C5; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C263CE02C5 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so500400wag.10 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=mEXyCFRytbhORVrHooMBRvdZWgLu3E51HCIkH2qdUg0=; b=KRY6fmy3vuXmEcz4wN/uRhUKKAMVqg9/w+dTZC8bERuuXtjBzaET/6CYfjW9B4wVJi JYu5VT/TQG0pvUwO8aAVOSUZpPz5g+psZrLiBI1lm/ZTScFkc7Gme2HAg/XgoOKJFb2m VIJL8ZqCi3eOd0ByY4hIol6uL3JHJKfzH/uPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=poU7dqo8pod4Xc/xDE8qdqTfM+Y7eD+nSlNsINCS/nTxfZK+8BwDrQNSVJmhF93+uQ iDSZ+R3iZb+PwHYuCTYj671uruTwua2ev2WwV67YaQuyuY6hKQDP6AeqZZ9vCr2HK+XH eAiU8V1u7yShrQe+oD7TmDxgCv0roNxuVSSAc= Received: by 10.114.58.6 with SMTP id g6mr1389032waa.68.1214574462420; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.240.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm1336802yxr.3.2008.06.27.06.47.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] h Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:48:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <4861AB64.9000709@comcast.net> <126A75F7-FD97-4E34-88EA-BBBE7ABBBA69@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <20080627110804.25cdd97f@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080627110804.25cdd97f@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806271548.26997.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: a826144b-8e66-4063-b4da-e7f6e8502555 X-Archives-Hash: fdc37af40fec1c6976b5ccdb94c608d2 On Friday 27 June 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: > > > I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep > > > quiet about > > > being able to break a secure cipher. > > > > I can't help wondering if - since P=NP is such a big problem - the > > advantages of having this knowledge in the public domain might > > override the advantages of mere spying. > > I'm sure the holy grail for the NSA is a cipher that everyone thinks > is totally secure but they can break. These agencies aren't > interested in the greater good, only furthering their own goals. This is the spooks we are talking about so I'm sure Neil is right and they are having wet dreams about this very thing. All I can say is, thank $DEITY for open/free software and open algorithms. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list