From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCDdI-0002xs-3g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:04:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5379E02B5; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A708E02B5 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2008 13:04:53 -0000 Received: from p3E9E6FAC.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO nargond.local) [62.158.111.172] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 27 Jun 2008 15:04:53 +0200 X-Authenticated: #26187417 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/9QNVlmE/9eITxkF917qYtozK81cKDq9FnlUuydN RMvjB09RbFz2rU From: Sebastian Wiesner To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography. Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:04:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <4861AB64.9000709@comcast.net> <4863E15A.80009@badapple.net> <48640F91.2030608@wrkhors.com> In-Reply-To: <48640F91.2030608@wrkhors.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1374296.9pVD937MK1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806271504.07820.basti.wiesner@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: d346dcb1-3989-4894-b25a-9309616c06ae X-Archives-Hash: 3944da0666b41af05b33c8f6c161354c --nextPart1374296.9pVD937MK1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Steven Lembark at Thursday 26 June 2008, 23:52:17 > > I submit that brute forcing an AES key of reasonably length is > > currently impossible in an amount of time that would matter to the > > human race. > > On average yes. > > As already pointed out, however, there is nothing > to prevent the first guess from matching a key and > cracking one particular example of the cipher in > 0.0001 seconds. A probability of something like 1 / 50000 to die in a car accident does not= =20 one prevent from driving a car. But a probability of 1 / (2^256) of=20 finding the first key right away at the first guess is easily held up=20 against key security of AES ... now that's a very strange mismatch. Apparently you consider the security of your life much, much less worth tha= n=20 security of your encrypted hard disk ... =2D-=20 =46reedom is always the freedom of dissenters. (Rosa Luxemburg) --nextPart1374296.9pVD937MK1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkhk5UcACgkQn3IEGILecb6oQwCfYyMLN6hv158ajcwJIaPdk+4w srcAn1MXcIKvZRInKo8cHs7DMXXKIC1Y =NMbO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1374296.9pVD937MK1-- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list