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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:54:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806261054.43706.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4862FD4F.8070303@comcast.net>

On Thursday 26 June 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> Sebastian Wiesner wrote:

> | I don't and I did not say so, things like the Debian disaster bring
> | you back to reality from dreams ...

This is the favoured method of cracking encryption - misuse by the user. 
The canonical example is of course Enigma and the stupid mistake that 
let the Allies crack it. This is entirely analogous to the Debian 
fiasco.

> With desktop computing power and speed growing at the rate that it
> currently is, does it stretch the imagination so much that
> supercomputer power and speed is also growing at a similar rate. 
> Even if an AES256 key cannot be broken "in a million years" by one
> supercomputer (*I* would like to see a citation for that), there will
> soon be a time when it will be able to be cracked in a much shorter
> time - with one supercomputer.

No-one has ever seriously said that it will take X time to crack a key. 
The possibility exists that the first key randomly selected in a brute 
force attack will match which gives you a time to crack in the 
millisecond range.

The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific 
computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The 
average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still 
averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation 
rates like what RoadRunner can achieve.

All this presupposes that the algorithm in question has no known 
cryptographic weaknesses so brute force is the only feasible method of 
attack currently.


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-26  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-25  2:20 [gentoo-user] loop-aes + extra-ciphers Chris Walters
2008-06-25  5:43 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-06-25 13:20 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-25 15:14   ` Chris Walters
2008-06-25 18:51     ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-25 20:25       ` Chris Walters
2008-06-25 21:24         ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-25 21:53           ` Jason Rivard
2008-06-25 22:10             ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-26  2:22               ` [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography Chris Walters
2008-06-26  8:54                 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2008-06-26 18:35                   ` kashani
2008-06-26 21:52                     ` Steven Lembark
2008-06-27  0:06                       ` kashani
2008-06-27 13:04                       ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-26 20:14                   ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-26 20:39                     ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-26 22:10                       ` [gentoo-user] h Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-26 22:47                         ` Sebastian Günther
2008-06-26 23:37                           ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-27  9:44                             ` Stroller
2008-06-27 10:08                               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-27 13:48                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-27 22:00                                   ` Chris Walters
2008-06-27 20:26                                 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-27  0:16                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-27  0:28                           ` kashani
2008-06-27  8:51                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-27  8:59                               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-27 13:21                             ` Sebastian Wiesner
2008-06-27  8:42                         ` Alan McKinnon

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