[gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Paul Melvin]

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Hi,

 

I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to
configure it to use WPA-PSK.

 

I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.

 

If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the
broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a
hidden ssid but will not connect to it.

 

I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect?

 

Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it
go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where
/etc/init.d/networking restart did it

 

Cheers

 

Paul


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Sergey Kobzar]

Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am
> trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
>  
> I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
> wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
>  
> If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off
> the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes
> that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
>  
> I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect?

I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link
DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant
permanent problem. Windows works fine.

AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.


> Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to
> make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu
> where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Paul



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RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Paul Melvin]

Hi Sergey,

Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the iwconfig
command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e.

iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid

However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden ssids,
if at all, and it does seem messy

Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?

Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to and I
would hope that I could replicate it

Cheers

paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:tod.zullu@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am
> trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
>  
> I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
> wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
>  
> If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off
> the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes
> that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
>  
> I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect?

I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link
DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant
permanent problem. Windows works fine.

AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.


> Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to
> make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu
> where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Paul



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Florian Philipp]

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:31 +0100
"Paul Melvin" <paul@assured-networks.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Sergey,
> 
> Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the
> iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e.
> 
> iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid
> 
> However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden
> ssids, if at all, and it does seem messy
> 
> Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?
> 
> Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to
> and I would hope that I could replicate it
> 
> Cheers
> 
> paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:tod.zullu@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
> 
> Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >  
> > I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am
> > trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
> >  
> > I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
> > wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
> >  
> > If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off
> > the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes
> > that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
> >  
> > I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to
> > connect?
> 
> I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link
> DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant
> permanent problem. Windows works fine.
> 
> AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.
> 
> 
> > Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to
> > make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu
> > where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
> >  
> > Cheers
> >  
> > Paul
> 

I use wpa_supplicant and it's working flawlessly with a hidden ssid and
some unhidden ones. Here is an excerpt from my wpa_supplicant.conf:

network={		<<<--normal net with wpa2 and visible ssid
        ssid="..."
        key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
        psk="..."
}
network={		<<<--net with wep and hidden ssid
        scan_ssid=1
        ssid="..."
        key_mgmt=NONE
        wep_key0=8346...
        wep_tx_keyidx=0
}
eapol_version=1		<<<--some general options
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1

I'm using iwl3945, by the way.

As far as Ubuntu goes, I think they use networkmanager which gives you
a nice gui but only marginal advantages over properly configured
wpa_supplicant and /etc/conf.d/net-files.

Here are some parts of my /etc/conf.d/net:

modules_eth1=( "wpa_supplicant" )
wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext" 
iwconfig_eth1="txpower on"

#some SSID-specific options for nets I know. On every other net dhcp is
#assumed
config_SSID1=( "192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" )
routes_SSID1=( "default via 192.168.2.1" )
dns_servers_SSID1=( "192.168.4.1" )
config_SSID2=( "dhcp" )


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RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Paul Melvin]

Hi Florian,

Mine will not associate with the hidden ap, my files are below, please have
a look to see if I have missed anything as I would like to get this working

/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant

network={
	scan_ssid=1
	ssid="ng6"
	key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
	proto=WPA
	pairwise=CCMP TKIP
	group=CCMP TKIP
	psk="123456"
	priority=2
}

/etc/conf.d/net

config_eth0=( "dhcp" )

config_eth1=( "dhcp" )
#iwconfig eth1 essid ng6
modules=( "wpa_supplicant" )
wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext"
wpa_timeout_eth1=60

how can I stop the wpa (just use a kill?) so that I can reload the settings
and if I use the -dd option should I be able to find out what is wrong?

thanks

paul

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From: Florian Philipp [mailto:lists@f_philipp.fastmail.net] 
Sent: 17 June 2008 13:45
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:31 +0100
"Paul Melvin" <paul@assured-networks.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Sergey,
> 
> Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the 
> iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e.
> 
> iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid
> 
> However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden 
> ssids, if at all, and it does seem messy
> 
> Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?
> 
> Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to 
> and I would hope that I could replicate it
> 
> Cheers
> 
> paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:tod.zullu@gmail.com]
> Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
> 
> Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >  
> > I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am 
> > trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
> >  
> > I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, 
> > wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
> >  
> > If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off 
> > the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes 
> > that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
> >  
> > I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to 
> > connect?
> 
> I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link DWL-G500 
> adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant 
> permanent problem. Windows works fine.
> 
> AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.
> 
> 
> > Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to 
> > make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu 
> > where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
> >  
> > Cheers
> >  
> > Paul
> 

I use wpa_supplicant and it's working flawlessly with a hidden ssid and some
unhidden ones. Here is an excerpt from my wpa_supplicant.conf:

network={		<<<--normal net with wpa2 and visible ssid
        ssid="..."
        key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
        psk="..."
}
network={		<<<--net with wep and hidden ssid
        scan_ssid=1
        ssid="..."
        key_mgmt=NONE
        wep_key0=8346...
        wep_tx_keyidx=0
}
eapol_version=1		<<<--some general options
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1

I'm using iwl3945, by the way.

As far as Ubuntu goes, I think they use networkmanager which gives you a
nice gui but only marginal advantages over properly configured
wpa_supplicant and /etc/conf.d/net-files.

Here are some parts of my /etc/conf.d/net:

modules_eth1=( "wpa_supplicant" )
wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext" 
iwconfig_eth1="txpower on"

#some SSID-specific options for nets I know. On every other net dhcp is
#assumed config_SSID1=( "192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ) routes_SSID1=(
"default via 192.168.2.1" ) dns_servers_SSID1=( "192.168.4.1" )
config_SSID2=( "dhcp" )

 

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RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Paul Sobey]

> Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?
>
> Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to and
> I
> would hope that I could replicate it

(K)ubuntu use NetworkManager. For what it's worth, I also use this on my
laptop, and it works very well, particularly when you're joining a lot of
unknown networks, e.g. wandering into coffee shops etc.. It only serves as
a front end to wpa_supplicant though, so if your machine isn't working
with that, you may still have troubles. KNetworkManager is hard masked in
portage btw.

Paul


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Re: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:40:05 +0100 (BST), Paul Sobey wrote:

> (K)ubuntu use NetworkManager. For what it's worth, I also use this on my
> laptop, and it works very well, particularly when you're joining a lot
> of unknown networks, e.g. wandering into coffee shops etc.. It only
> serves as a front end to wpa_supplicant though, so if your machine
> isn't working with that, you may still have troubles.

True, but it means you don't have to set up wpa_supplicant.conf.

> KNetworkManager is hard masked in portage btw.

No it's not, it is keyword masked. You can install it by adding
kde-misc/knetworkmanager to /etc/portage/package.keywords.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Zhu Sha Zang]

To restart my wireless connection i make this:

First, configuring my rtl8185 on /etc/conf.d/net
Second, in /etc/init.d make a symbolic link where "ln -s net.lo net.wlan0"
Finally /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start|stop|restart works well.

Bye

Paul Melvin escreveu:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to
> configure it to use WPA-PSK.
> 
>  
> 
> I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
> wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
> 
>  
> 
> If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the
> broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a
> hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
> 
>  
> 
> I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect?
> 
>  
> 
> Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it
> go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where
> /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem

[Florian Philipp]

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:03:44 +0100
"Paul Melvin" <paul@assured-networks.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Florian,
> 
> Mine will not associate with the hidden ap, my files are below,
> please have a look to see if I have missed anything as I would like
> to get this working
> 
> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
> 
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> 
> network={
> 	scan_ssid=1
> 	ssid="ng6"
> 	key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
> 	proto=WPA
> 	pairwise=CCMP TKIP
> 	group=CCMP TKIP
> 	psk="123456"
> 	priority=2
> }
> 
> /etc/conf.d/net
> 
> config_eth0=( "dhcp" )
> 
> config_eth1=( "dhcp" )
> #iwconfig eth1 essid ng6
> modules=( "wpa_supplicant" )
> wpa_supplicant_eth1="-Dwext"
> wpa_timeout_eth1=60
> 
> how can I stop the wpa (just use a kill?) so that I can reload the
> settings and if I use the -dd option should I be able to find out
> what is wrong?
> 
> thanks
> 
> paul
> 

Hi!

At first, please don't top-post, e.g. write your answers below the
quotations. That makes it easier to follow threads.

Concerning your wpa_supplicant.conf: I would comment out any
unnecessary settings, for example proto, pairwise and group.
Wpa_supplicant can figure this out by itself. That lowers the risk of
doing any human errors.
Second, did you copy my general options which were not connected to a
specific network? I think the ap_scan-option is crucial but I'm not
sure. Just use them all as I do.

Concerning the way you can stop wpa_supplicant: If you just started it
manually from console, a simple "killall wpa_supplicant" should be
enough. If you started it by init-script (e.g. "/etc/init.d/net.eth1
start") or automatically at system-start, then you stop it
with "/etc/init.d/net.eth1 stop".

To start wpa_supplicant with much output, run:
wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -d
(or -dd if you don't see anything supsicious).

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