* [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2
@ 2008-05-08 17:03 James
2008-05-08 17:40 ` Florian Philipp
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From: James @ 2008-05-08 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hello,
I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.
Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?
If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
machines?
James
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* Re: [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-08 17:03 [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2 James
@ 2008-05-08 17:40 ` Florian Philipp
2008-05-08 17:50 ` deface
2008-05-09 1:47 ` Ian Hilt
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From: Florian Philipp @ 2008-05-08 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 17:03 +0000, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.
>
> Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?
>
> If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
> machines?
>
>
> James
>
>
>
The P2 should be able to handle every live-CD or stage3 for x86 or i686.
P1 and K6 need i586. I'm not entirely sure but I suppose x86 means
"anything from i486 upwards" (Gentoo doesn't support i386 anymore). If
you can't find a Gentoo live-CD for i586, you could try Damn Small Linux
(DSL).
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* Re: [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-08 17:03 [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2 James
2008-05-08 17:40 ` Florian Philipp
@ 2008-05-08 17:50 ` deface
2008-05-09 1:05 ` Benjamen R. Meyer
2008-05-09 1:47 ` Ian Hilt
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From: deface @ 2008-05-08 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
2008 is still in beta, but it should still work. I'd use 2007.0. Also,
i sure hope you have a box setup for distcc. compiling gentoo on these
old/slow procs could take days.
deface
On May 8, 2008, at 12:03 PM, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.
>
> Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?
>
> If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
> machines?
>
>
> James
>
>
>
> --
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>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-08 17:50 ` deface
@ 2008-05-09 1:05 ` Benjamen R. Meyer
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From: Benjamen R. Meyer @ 2008-05-09 1:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I'd recommend 2007 based on the below. I put 2007.0 on my PII 233 last
fall. It does take a while, but it really didn't take that much longer
than my AMD64 build - though, I don't think I put KDE on it, which I did
on the AMD64. YMMV.
FYI - you can always upgrade the 2007 profile to 2008. I just did that
on my AMD64. And its a pretty smooth and slick process - I had always
rebuilt a box to change distros before (usually after a few years of use
and upgrades and not rebuilding just to change the distro either) so it
was a first for me. So don't be afraid to use the 2007.
Ben
deface wrote:
> 2008 is still in beta, but it should still work. I'd use 2007.0. Also, i
> sure hope you have a box setup for distcc. compiling gentoo on these
> old/slow procs could take days.
>
> deface
>
> On May 8, 2008, at 12:03 PM, James wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.
>>
>> Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?
>>
>> If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
>> machines?
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-08 17:03 [gentoo-user] installation cd for P1 & P2 James
2008-05-08 17:40 ` Florian Philipp
2008-05-08 17:50 ` deface
@ 2008-05-09 1:47 ` Ian Hilt
2008-05-09 15:07 ` [gentoo-user] " James
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From: Ian Hilt @ 2008-05-09 1:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, 8 May 2008 at 5:03pm -0000, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an assortment of p1, p2 and old amd K6 (586) class machines.
>
> Do the 2008.0 iso beta 2 cover this arch?
>
> If not, what is the recommend minimal cd to use to install these
> machines?
>
>
> James
<http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2>
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* [gentoo-user] Re: installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-09 1:47 ` Ian Hilt
@ 2008-05-09 15:07 ` James
2008-05-09 21:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-05-09 23:56 ` Ian Hilt
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From: James @ 2008-05-09 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Ian Hilt <ian.hilt <at> gmail.com> writes:
> <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2>
So you are saying (implying) that i586 and k6 machines can use the 2008.0.beta2
minimum CD for installation? What about all of those old drivers that are often
removed from the newer minimal CDs? This can lead to many false starts on the
installation process.
I've usually had to use 2006 CD for such installs:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20061127-newsletter.xml
As these installs take a while, which I do not mind, but, having to
make 3 or 4 stabs at the installation per machine, is painful. Every time I
install one it takes 3 or 4 attempts to get things right. GNAP would
be ideal, but it's not scheduled for a facelift until the "summer of coding"
work is complete
I'm only using the machines for minimal tasks such as primary/secondary
name service, firewalls and small mail servers....
James
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-09 15:07 ` [gentoo-user] " James
@ 2008-05-09 21:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-05-09 23:56 ` Ian Hilt
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2008-05-09 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:07:38 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:
> So you are saying (implying) that i586 and k6 machines can use the
> 2008.0.beta2 minimum CD for installation? What about all of those old
> drivers that are often removed from the newer minimal CDs? This can
> lead to many false starts on the installation process.
It's called a beta for a reason, you may need to check these things for
yourself. It shouldn't require many false starts though, just boot the CD
and check that everything works. If it doesn't, file a bug report.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-09 15:07 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-05-09 21:45 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2008-05-09 23:56 ` Ian Hilt
2008-05-10 15:38 ` James
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From: Ian Hilt @ 2008-05-09 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Fri, 9 May 2008 at 3:07pm -0000, James wrote:
> Ian Hilt <ian.hilt <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>> <http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=2>
>
>
> So you are saying (implying) that i586 and k6 machines can use the 2008.0.beta2
> minimum CD for installation? What about all of those old drivers that are often
I was merely providing an official Gentoo document which provided
information related to your question.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: installation cd for P1 & P2
2008-05-09 23:56 ` Ian Hilt
@ 2008-05-10 15:38 ` James
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From: James @ 2008-05-10 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Ian Hilt <ian.hilt <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > So you are saying (implying) that i586 and k6 machines can
use the 2008.0.beta2
> > minimum CD for installation? What about all of those old drivers
that are often
> I was merely providing an official Gentoo document which provided
> information related to your question.
OK got it.
Thanks for all of the input from everyone.
James
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