[gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Robin Atwood]

I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE 3.5.9 
and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with embedded 
flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got  broken wrt 
konqueror and my amd64 system is using netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, 
that version now seems to have been removed. So what version are people 
using?  

TIA
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag, 5. Mai 2008, Robin Atwood wrote:
> I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE 3.5.9
> and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with embedded
> flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got  broken wrt
> konqueror and my amd64 system is using netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however,
> that version now seems to have been removed. So what version are people
> using?

*  net-www/netscape-flash
      Latest version available: 9.0.124.0
      Latest version installed: 9.0.124.0

*  net-www/nspluginwrapper
      Latest version available: 0.9.91.5-r1
      Latest version installed: 0.9.91.5-r1



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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Robin Atwood]

On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Montag, 5. Mai 2008, Robin Atwood wrote:
> > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with
> > embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got 
> > broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> > netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have been
> > removed. So what version are people using?
>
> *  net-www/netscape-flash
>       Latest version available: 9.0.124.0
>       Latest version installed: 9.0.124.0
>
> *  net-www/nspluginwrapper
>       Latest version available: 0.9.91.5-r1
>       Latest version installed: 0.9.91.5-r1

You are using the nspluginwrapper for x86 arch?

-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag, 5. Mai 2008, Robin Atwood wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Montag, 5. Mai 2008, Robin Atwood wrote:
> > > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> > > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page
> > > with embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something
> > > got broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> > > netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have
> > > been removed. So what version are people using?
> >
> > *  net-www/netscape-flash
> >       Latest version available: 9.0.124.0
> >       Latest version installed: 9.0.124.0
> >
> > *  net-www/nspluginwrapper
> >       Latest version available: 0.9.91.5-r1
> >       Latest version installed: 0.9.91.5-r1
>
> You are using the nspluginwrapper for x86 arch?
>
> -Robin
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no, amd64 ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Alex Schuster]

Robin Atwood writes:

> I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page
> with embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something
> got  broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have
> been removed. So what version are people using?

New flash on one machine, where I have the same problems. I disabled flash 
in konqueror, so do not get the segfaults all the time, but it sucks to 
use firefox for every site with flash I want to use.
  
So on another machine, I kept the old 9.0.48.0-r1, despite the many 
security bugs.

Maybe I will save the old flash stuff in some special directory which I 
will tell konqueror to use, so I can upgrade flash and use the new 
version, except for konqueror.

	Wonko
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Robin Atwood]

On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Robin Atwood writes:
> > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page
> > with embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something
> > got  broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> > netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have
> > been removed. So what version are people using?
>
> New flash on one machine, where I have the same problems. I disabled flash
> in konqueror, so do not get the segfaults all the time, but it sucks to
> use firefox for every site with flash I want to use.
>
> So on another machine, I kept the old 9.0.48.0-r1, despite the many
> security bugs.
>
> Maybe I will save the old flash stuff in some special directory which I
> will tell konqueror to use, so I can upgrade flash and use the new
> version, except for konqueror.
>
> 	Wonko

I solved the problem by downloading the old netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1.ebuild 
from http://sources.gentoo.org/ and placing it in my local overlay. But, as 
you say, it sucks...

Cheers
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Mike Williams]

On Monday 05 May 2008 18:04:42 Robin Atwood wrote:
> I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE 3.5.9
> and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with embedded
> flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got  broken wrt
> konqueror and my amd64 system is using netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however,
> that version now seems to have been removed. So what version are people
> using?
>
> TIA
> -Robin
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Taken, sucessfully, from 
http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/

====

KMPlayer is my media player of choice as it allows you to trivially switch 
between XINE, MPlayer and GStreamer backends and, as of version 0.10.0, has a 
nifty backend that allows you to use XEmbed-supporting plugins, including 
Adobe’s Flash plugin, which can then be embedded in Konqueror to allow Flash 
to work trivially.

HOWTO:

Install KMPlayer. It is included in all the major distributions I’ve ever 
used. Ensure it is installed/compiled with the “NPP” backend enabled which 
allows the playback of Netscape XEmbed plugins

Run KMPlayer so it creates its config file. Close it. (This step probably 
isn’t necessary but it won’t do any harm)

Open “~/.kde/share/config/kmplayerrc” in a text editor of your choice. Add the 
following to the end of the file:
 
[application/x-shockwave-flash]
 player=npp
 plugin=/opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Change the “plugin=” line depending on where the Adobe Flash plugin was 
installed on your distribution. The above example is where it is installed on 
Gentoo. (If people could reply with the location of it on their distribution 
that would be great, thanks!).

Open Konqueror and click “Settings > Configure Konqueror…”. In the new window 
navigate to “File Associations” in the left-hand panel and 
select “application/x-shockwave-flash“. Click the “Embedding” tab and 
click “Add..“. Select “Embedded MPlayer for KDE” from the new window. If it 
is not there then you may need to restart KDE or run “kbuildsycoca” from a 
terminal. Close all the opened windows.

Enjoy a working Flash in Konqueror!

===

As at least one of the commenters from the blog, I didn't habe an 
application/x-shockwave-flash association, so had to create it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Robin Atwood]

On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Monday 05 May 2008 18:04:42 Robin Atwood wrote:
> > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with
> > embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got 
> > broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> > netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have been
> > removed. So what version are people using?
>
> Taken, sucessfully, from
> http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/

Thanks for the link. I tried it and although the kmplayer plugin now loads, it 
makes a hash of playing the flash content; I get a bit of sound but no 
video.  ;(

Nice thought though.
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Mike Williams]

On Wednesday 07 May 2008 10:43:30 Robin Atwood wrote:
> > Taken, sucessfully, from
> > http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/
>
> Thanks for the link. I tried it and although the kmplayer plugin now loads,
> it makes a hash of playing the flash content; I get a bit of sound but no
> video.  ;(
>
> Nice thought though.

Oh, works fine for me :)
Looks a bit odd with the kmplayer rewind/pause/fastforward button bar 
appearing then disappearing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Robin Atwood]

On Thursday 08 May 2008, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 May 2008 10:43:30 Robin Atwood wrote:
> > > Taken, sucessfully, from
> > > http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto
> > >/
> >
> > Thanks for the link. I tried it and although the kmplayer plugin now
> > loads, it makes a hash of playing the flash content; I get a bit of sound
> > but no video.  ;(
> >
> > Nice thought though.
>
> Oh, works fine for me :)
> Looks a bit odd with the kmplayer rewind/pause/fastforward button bar
> appearing then disappearing.

I live in Thailand and although I pay for a 2 MBit ADSL connection, I only get 
that locally, the international bandwidth is rubbish. KMplayer seems to be 
unable to cope with this, whereas the flash plugin run natively is just about 
acceptable. Fortunately, we have a local Gentoo mirror! :)

-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Liviu Andronic]

On 5/5/08, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
> I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE 3.5.9
>  and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with embedded
>  flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got  broken wrt
>  konqueror and my amd64 system is using netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however,
>  that version now seems to have been removed. So what version are people
>  using?
>
Oh, I think you're in trouble here, and on the verge to switch to
Opera. From one of Opera's developers:

"with 9.2x only Flash version 9.0.48.0 will
work, because in the subsequent releases Flash depended on being in a Gtk
browser on linux/unix (this also broke Flash in Konqueror). This Gtk
environment was created in the pluginwrapper in 9.5, but since 9.2x is
stable this was too big a change for it. This has, however, been in 9.5
snapshots for a while now - please check out the Beta2 and see if that
resolves your issues:

http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/next/"

Regards,
Liviu
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 07 May 2008, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On 5/5/08, Robin Atwood <robin.atwood@attglobal.net> wrote:
> > I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> > 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page with
> > embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something got 
> > broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> > netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have been
> > removed. So what version are people using?
>
> Oh, I think you're in trouble here, and on the verge to switch to
> Opera. From one of Opera's developers:
>
> "with 9.2x only Flash version 9.0.48.0 will
> work, because in the subsequent releases Flash depended on being in a Gtk
> browser on linux/unix (this also broke Flash in Konqueror). This Gtk
> environment was created in the pluginwrapper in 9.5, but since 9.2x is
> stable this was too big a change for it. This has, however, been in 9.5
> snapshots for a while now - please check out the Beta2 and see if that
> resolves your issues:
>
> http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/next/"

Nope, Opera-9.50_beta2 seems to have problems playing flash (e.g. on bbc 
iplayer).  I haven't tried yet 9.50_beta2_p1951.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Liviu Andronic]

On 5/8/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope, Opera-9.50_beta2 seems to have problems playing flash (e.g. on bbc
>  iplayer).  I haven't tried yet 9.50_beta2_p1951.
>  --
It should work OK if you set the paths correctly. Here I have this, in
"Plugin options":
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins:/opt/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux:/usr/share/amsn/plugins

Regards,
Liviu
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Mick]

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On Friday 06 June 2008, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On 5/8/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nope, Opera-9.50_beta2 seems to have problems playing flash (e.g. on bbc
> >  iplayer).  I haven't tried yet 9.50_beta2_p1951.
> >  --
>
> It should work OK if you set the paths correctly. Here I have this, in
> "Plugin options":
> /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins:/opt/Adobe/Reader8/Browser/intellinux:/usr/share
>/amsn/plugins

Hmm, I seem to have these set up:

/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/opt/netscape/plugins:/opt/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins

Is the order in which they are listed important?
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Liviu Andronic]

On 6/7/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm, I seem to have these set up:
>
>  /opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/opt/netscape/plugins:/opt/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins
>
>  Is the order in which they are listed important?
>
Don't think so. On my system, in order to make Opera behave properly,
I unchecked
/opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/opt/netscape/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Try with
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins

alone, and see what it gives. Otherwise, experiment checking/unchecking paths.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Mick]

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On Saturday 07 June 2008, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On 6/7/08, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm, I seem to have these set up:
> >
> > 
> > /opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/opt/netscape/plugins:/opt/mozilla/plugins:/
> >usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins
> >
> >  Is the order in which they are listed important?
>
> Don't think so. On my system, in order to make Opera behave properly,
> I unchecked
> /opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins:/opt/netscape/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
>
> Try with
> /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins
>
> alone, and see what it gives. Otherwise, experiment checking/unchecking
> paths.

Thank you very much for the hint!  I experimented with changing the order and 
placing /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins first in the path.  Flash now works 
again.  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] What version of netscape-flash to use with konqueror?

[Alex Schuster]

Robin Atwood wrote:

> I have just brought my laptop (x86 arch) up to date and so I have KDE
> 3.5.9 and netscape-flash-9.0.124.0. Now whenever I go to a web page
> with embedded flash I get a segfault. I seem to remember that something
> got  broken wrt konqueror and my amd64 system is using
> netscape-flash-9.0.48.0-r1; however, that version now seems to have
> been removed. So what version are people using?

I had the same problem (as I wrote before), but now it seems all is fine 
again - current netscape-flash-9.0.124.0, current kde 3.5.9, and 
konqueror is playing flash just fine, no segfaults any more. I don't know 
why this is working now and did not before, but maybe you are lucky, too.

	Wonko
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