From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkDHf-00055J-Bq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:02:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 059C5E07E0; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED59E07E0 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so443540fge.14 for ; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:02:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=OJXvYVcIC5tD4GYYTgjjMNUk48BUHSI5BD65yeybKE8=; b=bHzIgu0emhPoCOCNlVsRWUmSO9tJTcT3MrJd5kb6PzPuOBKLmEerCA/Z0iYc9xkGExgjNpU05Act8ddaB5bHpNUskQf9X0Htf8bZY30kGKHX1MiYjeo525RN9ocQbN94fHWaeguO+g2kJ03objWenSOoQ0XJI1vrLL1uFLhKKII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=OZ8cQOJtlcjvjt89G0ZjfxSaZI2gmkx+KV8aB9Cz0QYFRhfKcv8U8vjf7y+qb1a1Dbn1wXVz+SRUt4xndChUZ2O/vZVFQGi6DQJezKbL7OOL98mL3f2tHJPyzJgWIfH8ajJ8bIvIwgYEw8Em3ZutzsYooY+H8BdX6pqQh9+sUSo= Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr4994895fgb.20.1207897369153; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.200.116? ( [196.211.71.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm8076182mue.3.2008.04.11.00.02.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] VQF deprecated? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:59:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <47FE6D84.70701@o2.pl> In-Reply-To: <47FE6D84.70701@o2.pl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804110859.51615.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 73d03b93-be06-4b90-8733-0ed477d95a5a X-Archives-Hash: 069e4363a447ae27d61c6c9e0dc28cc3 On Thursday 10 April 2008, Mateusz A. Mierzwi=F1ski wrote: > Hi, > > I just wan't to know, why software such as amarok don't go way, like > winamp - more formats available for playing because of plugins?=20 Dunno. You should ask the amarok developers why they chose the=20 architecture they did. Or you could try gstreamer? > SO=20 > libraries are also dynamic linked, so why I don't have any player for > VQF format?=20 Maybe no-one has written one. It won't be written until someone care=20 enough to write it. > I must emulate Winamp with wine to play VQF of course=20 > with better sound quality with DSP plugins like 3D Spatial Sound. My > god! This is Linux - best operating system on the world, why software > producers are so closed to world? Wining with Windows is endless > future. XMMS was playing VQF but XMMS was removed from portage > because some bugs (what software don't have one).=20 XMMS was removed from portage because it was a huge monolithic piece of=20 crap. Upstream ABANDONED the project years before, no-one had touched=20 the ebuild for ages and no-one was prepared to maintain it. And, just=20 to top everything off, it wouldn't build. > I know that OGG is=20 > better, or even MP3 (MPEG-1 Layer 3) but VQF in 80kbps is still > lossless compresion - MP3 and OGG not, and I like to listen good > quality music with all tones, even not heared. PS: human ear > toleration is little part different for different people - MP3 and > OGG is not good compression for audiophiles. Mateusz, this is the wrong place to vent your frustrations and have a=20 rant. The people here will help you take something that exists and get=20 it running. They are not the devs, and no-one here has influence with=20 the devs. I suggest you code the necessary plugins yourself. That's how this best=20 operating system in the world got to be the best - someone like you=20 needed it to do something and wrote the code to do it. =2D-=20 Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list