From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JjBnb-0001HT-QH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:15:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EF2FE0770; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE971E0770 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so2627590fkq.2 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=VrN9m4mBv5bk1f7LcOShGj1ScBSy9pX5q/5idQ+fUwc=; b=s6uLBJYTZmlPPDedDq+1Jj3QKLDs+FBZbWNDyusMFWAS1D+t8OcHmrxqbihMWqyXND68rDPUde7NWcBC1V5lXMa8/fgLVBD6kbYJD0bnqv+n0pvHCSFh5Tt9+OankcHqLTJ7w/oWIIkFYgB0OSgFni5krmS+IJbDUnCqJ0kSm2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=adMochc7x4jKrF7LERI6Q3GY00WcvFbGnWJvEqBWWVGD+elNIqpMP+Y+d8VCjN42DdPWFytHR7PYyOCg4wkpzMXdl/FL0hTNP4yeq7nnaj7nhu4tARpidodlsw+1E39+FiBpLbnapLIKB/MgVgFeGier3gnGqQhN5l+q88szCQs= Received: by 10.82.166.9 with SMTP id o9mr2436265bue.55.1207653332627; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.200.116? ( [196.211.71.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm12714175mue.15.2008.04.08.04.15.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: "emerge -DuvatN world" doesn't show all upgradeable packages Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:12:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <2577300.OLZLf1hHOn@schmarck.cn> <20080408114436.4b5285b2@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <1971498.rAt26meG94@schmarck.cn> In-Reply-To: <1971498.rAt26meG94@schmarck.cn> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804081312.52849.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: eeb40f82-f1d1-42b8-9f2e-bde078956252 X-Archives-Hash: 23f06212aa6d8a5907000f7306964af7 On Tuesday 08 April 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote: > Well, I disagree. I want to install almost all of the KDE stuff, > but eg. not the PPP things, as I've got not use for that on that > system. But I still would like my world file *NOT* to be cluttered > with a gazillion of kde packages. > > The current system absolutely does not handle that just fine. Hmmm, well that's mostly just too bad. The devs built the ebuilds to work the way the work because that's the sanest approach when your universe is all the users that there are. You are perfectly free to copy those ebuilds to your local overlay, wrap the DEPENDs in USE checks to give you the behaviour you want. Then you can publish them to your website and supply instructions for interested users to add them to layman. Then anyone that wants what you want can get it off you. Good way to get a taste of what it takes to maintain ebuilds for a huge task like KDE (I do it for e17. It's a ball-ache sometimes). But the portage tree builds are never going to do what you are asking. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list