[gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[James]

hello,

I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

All ebuilds that could satisfy 
"x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"

These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
just 2D and kde. 

These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
(perhaps an old ATI card?)
I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
display for network monitoring and management.

Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
for a long time.


James

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RE: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Prado, Renato (R.)]

Did you try the "nv" and "nouveau" drivers for your current card?

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Subject: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

hello,

I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:

They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:

NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

All ebuilds that could satisfy 
"x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"

These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
just 2D and kde. 

These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
(perhaps an old ATI card?)
I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
display for network monitoring and management.

Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
for a long time.


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 07:10:48PM +0000, James wrote:
> These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
> but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
> So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
> is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
> (perhaps an old ATI card?)
> I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.

Huh? Whatdya mean they are gone?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

Just put >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-87.00 in
/etc/portage/package.mask

and you'll get the legacy drivers, no?

And if you only use them for 2D graphics, might want to try the nv
driver.

HTH, 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag, 1. April 2008, James wrote:
> hello,
>
> I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:
>
> They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:
>
> NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
>

that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.

The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
portage.

The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!



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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Dale]

James wrote:
> hello,
>
> I have a couple of old 32bit amd athlon XP systems:
>
> They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:
>
> NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
>
> All ebuilds that could satisfy 
> "x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers" have been masked"
>
> These systems are used to run jffnms, postgresql rrdtool
> to show network devices and their status. Nothing fancy
> just 2D and kde. 
>
> These cards were supported by the Nvidia legacy driver
> but now that's gone there is no support for these cards. 
> So I guess I'd  like to replace them with something that 
> is open source on the driver, so as to keep support a long time. 
> (perhaps an old ATI card?)
> I think they are AGP 4 motherboards.
>
> I intend to use them for a long time as to drive a graphical 
> display for network monitoring and management.
>
> Any low cost suggestions are most welcome, particularly something
> that is open source on the driver, so I can keep them useful
> for a long time.
>
>
> James
>
>   

I have this card as reported by lspci:

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] (rev a1)

This is the driver that I use:

[I--] [ -] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-169.09-r1 (0)

This is the setting in my make.conf file for this card:

VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"

It all seems to work fine here so may be worth a try to see if it will 
work for you as well.  I use KDE here and the video works very well for 
a older card.

Hope that helps.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[James]

Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann <at> tu-clausthal.de> writes:


> > NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

> that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.


> The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!
Yep I got this one(FX 5200) working with the lastest driver.



> The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
> portage.


Hmmm,
I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.

Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 
<snip>
*** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***

make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
 *
 * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *               ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 *             environment, line 3558:  Called linux-mod_src_compile
 *             environment, line 2624:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *               emake HOSTCC="$(tc-getBUILD_CC)" CC="$(get-KERNEL_CC)"
LDFLAGS="$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)" ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} ||
die "Unable to make ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS}.";
 *  The die message:
 *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux
SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/build clean module.


I've never seen this before....
" Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the
kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify
their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or
the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option."

So where/how do I set the SYSSRC variable?

Or is something else wrong?







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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Neil Walker]

James wrote:
> They have very old, no longer supported nvidia cards:
>
> NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
>   

Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of 
drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)


Be lucky,

Neil


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann <at> tu-clausthal.de> writes:
>
>
>   
>>> NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] && NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
>>>       
>
>   
>> that is not true. Both cards are still supported by nvidia drivers.
>>     
>
>
>   
>> The FX card ist even supported by the latest drivers!
>>     
> Yep I got this one(FX 5200) working with the lastest driver.
>
>
>
>   
>> The Gf2 based ones are supported by the 7186 drivers - which are even in 
>> portage.
>>     
>
>
> Hmmm,
> I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.
>
> Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 
> <snip>
> *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
>
> make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
>  *
>  * ERROR: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 failed.
>  * Call stack:
>  *               ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
>  *             environment, line 3558:  Called linux-mod_src_compile
>  *             environment, line 2624:  Called die
>  * The specific snippet of code:
>  *               emake HOSTCC="$(tc-getBUILD_CC)" CC="$(get-KERNEL_CC)"
> LDFLAGS="$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)" ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} ||
> die "Unable to make ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS}.";
>  *  The die message:
>  *   Unable to make  IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes V=1 SYSSRC=/usr/src/linux
> SYSOUT=/lib/modules/2.6.24-gentoo-r3/build clean module.
>
>
> I've never seen this before....
> " Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the
> kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify
> their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or
> the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option."
>
> So where/how do I set the SYSSRC variable?
>
> Or is something else wrong?
>
>   

Did you make the symlink to the kernel sources?  /usr/src/linux should 
point to the current kernel version like this:

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   32 2008-03-03 21:26 linux -> 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8/

Your version may vary tho.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[Neil Walker]

James wrote:
> I'm using 2.6.24-gentoo-r3.
>
> Emerging (1 of 1) x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-71.86.01 
> <snip>
> *** Unable to determine the target kernel version. ***
>   

Do you have the /usr/src/linux symlink pointing to the kernel source 
tree you are using?


Be lucky,

Neil


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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[James]

Neil Walker <neil <at> ep.mine.nu> writes:


> Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of 
> drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)


YES the 96.43.05 version compiled and is working. How/where did you 
learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the 
nvidia-drivers?


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[darren kirby]

quoth the James:
> Neil Walker <neil <at> ep.mine.nu> writes:
> > Utterly wrong. ;) The GeForce2 is supported by the 96.43.xx series of
> > drivers and the FX5200 is still supported by the unified driver. :)
>
> YES the 96.43.05 version compiled and is working. How/where did you
> learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the
> nvidia-drivers?
>
>
> James

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

Each driver has its own page with a "supported products" link on the left 
side.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[Neil Walker]

James wrote:
> How/where did you learn which nvidia cards are supported by which version of the 
> nvidia-drivers?
>   

It's in the README file in the package. ;)


Be lucky,

Neil



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[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia drivers

[James]

darren kirby <bulliver <at> badcomputer.org> writes:


> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

> Each driver has its own page with a "supported products" link on the left 
> side.


Ah.

very cool

thx

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers

[Jesús Guerrero]

Hello,

In addition to what the people already said in this thread:

Note that, even if a card doesn't work with the latest driver,
it doesn't mean it's discontinued and/or unsupported. That's a
complete misunderstanding.

Nvidia continues developing and fixing bugs in the previous
branches when necessary. Obviously, new features that goes into
the current branch can't be backported, since the older cards just
lack the hardware support for such features. But the older branches
still get occasional updates if a bug is detected or there's any
other problem that requires attention.

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