[gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Rodrigo Lazo]

Hi,

Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/

What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
worth copying.

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Andrey Falko]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>  Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
>
>  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
>
>  What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
>  worth copying.
>
>  Regards
>
>  --
>
>  Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
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>
>

Wow. I really like the idea. Maybe a Summer of Code project?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Ale]

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2008/3/6, Andrey Falko <ma3oxuct@gmail.com>:
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
> >
> >  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
> >
> >  What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
> >  worth copying.
> >
> >  Regards
> >
> >  --
> >
> >  Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
> >  --
> >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
>
> Wow. I really like the idea. Maybe a Summer of Code project?
>
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>
>
 Is a nice idea to start something useful for us (Gentoo users/developers)
but because the way it is in Ubuntu i don't find interesting something like
"Total Speed Up" or "Focus on 64-bit desktop system"  both ideas part of the
most popular ideas today.

Cheers!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Ale wrote:
|  Is a nice idea to start something useful for us (Gentoo
| users/developers) but because the way it is in Ubuntu i don't find
| interesting something like "Total Speed Up" or "Focus on 64-bit desktop
| system"  both ideas part of the most popular ideas today.

It gives a general idea of what all people (not only users, power users, programmers, hackers,
sysadmins, etc) want, though. Sounds nice. I'd like to see a Gentoo Brainstorm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Aaron Clark]

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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> Ale wrote:
> |  Is a nice idea to start something useful for us (Gentoo
> | users/developers) but because the way it is in Ubuntu i don't find
> | interesting something like "Total Speed Up" or "Focus on 64-bit desktop
> | system"  both ideas part of the most popular ideas today.
> 
> It gives a general idea of what all people (not only users, power users, 
> programmers, hackers,
> sysadmins, etc) want, though. Sounds nice. I'd like to see a Gentoo 
> Brainstorm.
> 

Agreed.  Given that one of the big issues recently has been poor 
communication between the devs and end-users, this could help bridge the 
gap and give users the feeling that they have more of a voice.

Aaron
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[cypherstrong]

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Who are the person who can run a brainstorm on gentoo web site ???

Le Thursday 06 March 2008 16:29:43 Aaron Clark, vous avez écrit :
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> > Ale wrote:
> > |  Is a nice idea to start something useful for us (Gentoo
> > | users/developers) but because the way it is in Ubuntu i don't find
> > | interesting something like "Total Speed Up" or "Focus on 64-bit desktop
> > | system"  both ideas part of the most popular ideas today.
> >
> > It gives a general idea of what all people (not only users, power users,
> > programmers, hackers,
> > sysadmins, etc) want, though. Sounds nice. I'd like to see a Gentoo
> > Brainstorm.
>
> Agreed.  Given that one of the big issues recently has been poor
> communication between the devs and end-users, this could help bridge the
> gap and give users the feeling that they have more of a voice.
>
> Aaron



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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cypherstrong wrote:
| Who are the person who can run a brainstorm on gentoo web site ???

Why don't we open a bug item for this? Maybe we can get in touch with the people who implemented the
Ubuntu Brainstorm.

PS: Totally OFFTOPIC. I'll arrive to Vegas tomorrow. Anyone attending 2600 Meeting there PLEASE
contact me. Or if any of you is into security, I'll also stay in charlotte March 10-16.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Rodrigo Lazo]

Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
| Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
|
| http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527

Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.

I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND
MAKE A COMMENT.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Andrey Falko]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
<buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
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> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
>  |
>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
>
>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
>
>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND
>  MAKE A COMMENT.
>
>

I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.

I have already suggested to a friend to submit a GSoC proposal to
implement a Gentoo version of brainstorm.....

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Rodrigo Lazo]

"Andrey Falko" <ma3oxuct@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
> <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
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>> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
>>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
>>  |
>>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
>>
>>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
>>
>>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND
>>  MAKE A COMMENT.
>>
>>
>
> I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
> about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
> wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
> open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.
>

As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port
the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make
the developers and the users work together on this "brainstorm" is
important to convince the developers that it will payoff. 

As a side note, bugzilla is not only for "bugs" but also for
enhancement proposals.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
> "Andrey Falko" <ma3oxuct@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
> > <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
> >>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
> >>  |
> >>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
> >>
> >>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The
> community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
> >>
> >>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary,
> or not [of course], GO THERE AND
> >>  MAKE A COMMENT.

I don't necessarily think a whole lot of "me too's" will help.

> > I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
> > about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
> > wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
> > open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.
> 
> As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port
> the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make
> the developers and the users work together on this "brainstorm" is
> important to convince the developers that it will payoff. 
> 
> As a side note, bugzilla is not only for "bugs" but also for
> enhancement proposals.

I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give
up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help
first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums.

Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly
what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the
implementation.

Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say "here's the idea, here's the
details, here's how it can work".  Then you may get it happening for
real.  Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular
features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full
of demands and unreasonable expectations.

I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start.
However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will
still be a good indication of the communities feeling.  There will be
lots of silent watchers.  Done right I think it could be very useful.

I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself
have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool!
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11

cya,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Chris Brennan]

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Iain Buchanan wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
|> "Andrey Falko" <ma3oxuct@gmail.com> writes:
|>
|>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
|>> <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
|>>> Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
|>>>  | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen
|>>>  |
|>>>  | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527
|>>>
|>>>  Doesn't sound like a "Gentoo as a whole" answer to me. The
|> community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community.
|>>>  I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary,
|> or not [of course], GO THERE AND
|>>>  MAKE A COMMENT.
|
| I don't necessarily think a whole lot of "me too's" will help.
|
|>> I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go
|>> about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really
|>> wants the brainstorm should code  up the infrastructure and then maybe
|>> open a bug to get their work into Gentoo.
|> As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port
|> the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make
|> the developers and the users work together on this "brainstorm" is
|> important to convince the developers that it will payoff.
|>
|> As a side note, bugzilla is not only for "bugs" but also for
|> enhancement proposals.
|
| I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give
| up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help
| first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums.
|
| Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly
| what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the
| implementation.
|
| Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say "here's the idea, here's the
| details, here's how it can work".  Then you may get it happening for
| real.  Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular
| features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full
| of demands and unreasonable expectations.
|
| I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start.
| However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will
| still be a good indication of the communities feeling.  There will be
| lots of silent watchers.  Done right I think it could be very useful.
|
| I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself
| have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool!
| http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11
|
| cya,


One other thing that may be good, is someone to donate resources if need
be to get the project off the ground. Us doing all the technical
footwork, means very little if there is no practical application in
place, something tangible to look at and evaluate.

If we're going to commit to this, then we may as well go as far as we
can with it, till it looks so impressive and awe-inspiring that we can't
help but be flocked to, like gentoo-wiki and the forums. When I help new
users into the world of Linux and Gentoo, I tell them, there are three
things you should book mark, and visit frequently, gentoo.com,
gentoo-wiki.com and forums.gentoo.org, why shouldn't this be any different.

Chris
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm !

[Dan Farrell]

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:32:21 -0500
Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:

> One other thing that may be good, is someone to donate resources if
> need be to get the project off the ground. Us doing all the technical
> footwork, means very little if there is no practical application in
> place, something tangible to look at and evaluate.
> 
> If we're going to commit to this, then we may as well go as far as we
> can with it, till it looks so impressive and awe-inspiring that we
> can't help but be flocked to, like gentoo-wiki and the forums. When I
> help new users into the world of Linux and Gentoo, I tell them, there
> are three things you should book mark, and visit frequently,
> gentoo.com, gentoo-wiki.com and forums.gentoo.org, why shouldn't this
> be any different.
 

Friends, 

I write custom database-driven websites like this one professionally,
and there is absolutely no reason that, if I had just a little help
coding the thing, we couldn't turn something like this into a reality.  

If anyone is interested in, and has the resources necessary to, make
this happen, please speak up.  The project might to very well if we had
someone to do a little web design, someone to write a little PHP, and
whoever else wanted to help, besides myself.  

Furthermore, it's possible we can simply have the code that runs on
ubuntu's site.  I have sent a mail[1] to the webmasters of ubuntu.com,
hoping it will be directed to the proper feedback channels.  I know
hosting won't be a problem; I'm sure the gentoo web people would stick
it on a box somewhere, or, failing that, give us a subdomain to work
with on our own servers.  

I think, personally, that we should leave bugs.gentoo.org alone on this
one.  The devs are likely to think 'wouldn't
it be nice if we had this neat web page ... ' doesn't count as a
feature enhancement, but rather a _feature_.  To that end, I started a 
gentoo forums post[2] about the topic instead.  

Make sure to speak up if you want to help!  

Thanks for reading.  

[1] email to webmaster@{ubuntu,canonical}.com
> My attention has recently been drawn to brainstorm.ubuntu.com.  What
> an excellent way to 'socialize' user ideas and feedback!  The site
> got a bit of attention on the gentoo-users mailing list, and the
> general feeling was that such a site would be greatly beneficial to
> the community here in gentoo as well.  
> 
> Would you be amenable to the idea of granting us permission to use the
> site engine?  
> 
> Thank you for your time, 
> 
> 	Dan Farrell 

[2]
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-673136.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm !

[Tapio Raevaara]

On Monday 10 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:
> Furthermore, it's possible we can simply have the code that runs on
> ubuntu's site.  I have sent a mail[1] to the webmasters of ubuntu.com,
> hoping it will be directed to the proper feedback channels.  I know
> hosting won't be a problem; I'm sure the gentoo web people would stick
> it on a box somewhere, or, failing that, give us a subdomain to work
> with on our own servers.

I'm not a webmaster of ubuntu.com, but I'd have to say that creating a Gentoo 
Brainstorm website using Drupal wouldn't be difficult at all - that is, after 
all, what the Ubuntu folks have done: 
http://drupal.org/node/228222
http://drupal.org/node/228203

I don't know which module they've used exactly, but there are several that 
might be helpful:
http://drupal.org/project/vote_up_down
http://drupal.org/project/drupalit
http://drupal.org/project/advpoll
http://drupal.org/project/procon

On a final note,
let's not just copy what Ubuntu has done. Let's do it better instead, there's 
nothing that can't be improved.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm !

[Rodrigo Lazo]

Tapio Raevaara <tapio.raevaara@iki.fi> writes:


> On Monday 10 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote:
>> Furthermore, it's possible we can simply have the code that runs on
>> ubuntu's site.  I have sent a mail[1] to the webmasters of ubuntu.com,
>> hoping it will be directed to the proper feedback channels.  I know
>> hosting won't be a problem; I'm sure the gentoo web people would stick
>> it on a box somewhere, or, failing that, give us a subdomain to work
>> with on our own servers.
>
> I'm not a webmaster of ubuntu.com, but I'd have to say that creating a Gentoo 
> Brainstorm website using Drupal wouldn't be difficult at all - that is, after 
> all, what the Ubuntu folks have done: 
> http://drupal.org/node/228222
> http://drupal.org/node/228203
>
> I don't know which module they've used exactly, but there are several that 
> might be helpful:
> http://drupal.org/project/vote_up_down
> http://drupal.org/project/drupalit
> http://drupal.org/project/advpoll
> http://drupal.org/project/procon
>
> On a final note,
> let's not just copy what Ubuntu has done. Let's do it better instead, there's 
> nothing that can't be improved.


Ubuntu's site runs over drupal 5 and the code for the module they use
is under bazaar here:

https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/

Regards

p.d. There is poll on the forums about this idea here

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-673136.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Daniel Beecham]

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On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
>
> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
>
> What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
> worth copying.
>
> Regards
>
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>
I too think this is a good idea.
I'll be happy to help out on this one.

Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Ale]

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2008/3/7, Daniel Beecham <joshu@goobah.org>:
>
>
>
> On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
> >
> > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
> >
> > What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
> > worth copying.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
> >
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> >
> >
> I too think this is a good idea.
> I'll be happy to help out on this one.
>
> Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!



Welcome!! :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Daniel Beecham]

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On 3/7/08, Ale <elcorreodeale@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2008/3/7, Daniel Beecham <joshu@goobah.org>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
> > >
> > > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
> > >
> > > What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
> > > worth copying.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
> > >
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> > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> > >
> > >
> > I too think this is a good idea.
> > I'll be happy to help out on this one.
> >
> > Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!
>
>
>
> Welcome!! :D
>
>
>
Thank you!
A warm welcome, i think i'll like it here. (:

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Jerry McBride]

On Friday 07 March 2008 10:52:09 am Daniel Beecham wrote:
> On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
> >
> > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
> >
> > What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
> > worth copying.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
> >
> > --
> > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
> I too think this is a good idea.
> I'll be happy to help out on this one.
>
> Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!

Welcome Daniel!

The BrainStorm idea is a good one, but it closely resembles the gentoo forums 
and perhaps a bit like the gentoo wiki too... Heck... if you squint a bit and 
don't look real close, brainstorm looks a bit like the gentoo bugs site too.

Probably a good place for this to land is in the wiki... Call it "my wish 
list" (sorry) or something else though. Also, if  the gentoo version closely 
copies the Ubunt BrainStorm, it desperately needs a better indexing method, 
other than offering "pages" and "pages" of unknown topics that you must page 
through to find something useful...

Cheers All!










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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Andrey Falko]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Friday 07 March 2008 10:52:09 am Daniel Beecham wrote:
>  > On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > > Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
>  > >
>  > > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
>  > >
>  > > What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
>  > > worth copying.
>  > >
>  > > Regards
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > >
>  > > Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>  >
>  > I too think this is a good idea.
>  > I'll be happy to help out on this one.
>  >
>  > Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!
>
>  Welcome Daniel!
>
>  The BrainStorm idea is a good one, but it closely resembles the gentoo forums
>  and perhaps a bit like the gentoo wiki too... Heck... if you squint a bit and
>  don't look real close, brainstorm looks a bit like the gentoo bugs site too.
>
>  Probably a good place for this to land is in the wiki... Call it "my wish
>  list" (sorry) or something else though. Also, if  the gentoo version closely
>  copies the Ubunt BrainStorm, it desperately needs a better indexing method,
>  other than offering "pages" and "pages" of unknown topics that you must page
>  through to find something useful...
>
>  Cheers All!
>
Thats why I think it might be a good GSoC project....create the
ultimate brainstorm interface with searching, sorting, voting, and
much more.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
>
>  From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride
>  --
>
>
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Rodrigo Lazo]

Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> writes:

> On Friday 07 March 2008 10:52:09 am Daniel Beecham wrote:
>> On 3/5/08, Rodrigo Lazo <rlazo.paz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Have you seen ubuntu brainstorm?
>> >
>> > http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
>> >
>> > What do you think? Personally I believe is a very good idea and may be
>> > worth copying.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo)
>> >
>> > --
>> > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>> I too think this is a good idea.
>> I'll be happy to help out on this one.
>>
>> Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!
>

Hi Daniel!, welcome =)
>
> The BrainStorm idea is a good one, but it closely resembles the
> gentoo forums and perhaps a bit like the gentoo wiki
> too... Heck... if you squint a bit and don't look real close,
> brainstorm looks a bit like the gentoo bugs site too.
>

Sure Jerry, it's not all that different from the forum or bugzilla but
it's somehow more "accesible". I consider the brainstorm site it more
like a "shortcut" than a brand-new never-seen idea. You may use any of
the other (wiki, bugs, forum) to do this but it's not as visible as a
exclusive site. The real question may be, does it need so much
attention? I think so, because new ideas and a closer relationship
between the ideas proposed and the users are very important. 

> Probably a good place for this to land is in the wiki... Call it "my wish 
> list" (sorry) or something else though. Also, if  the gentoo version closely 
> copies the Ubunt BrainStorm, it desperately needs a better indexing method, 
> other than offering "pages" and "pages" of unknown topics that you must page 
> through to find something useful...
>

Yeah, it's seems like the first steps will be totally community-driven
(as the wiki AFAIK). I'm trying to get in touch with the ubuntu guys
that run the site to learn from their mistakes ;) I'll let you know of
any progress on this.

If somebody is interested on reading a post I made about this on my
blog here is the link

http://rlazo.supersized.org/archives/60-Gentoo-Brainstorm-born-maybe-not-so-dead.html

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Mick]

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On Friday 07 March 2008, Rodrigo Lazo wrote:
> Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> writes:
> > On Friday 07 March 2008 10:52:09 am Daniel Beecham wrote:

> >> I too think this is a good idea.
> >> I'll be happy to help out on this one.
> >>
> >> Btw, this is my first mail to this mailinglist - hi!
>
> Hi Daniel!, welcome =)

Welcome Daniel!  :)

> > The BrainStorm idea is a good one, but it closely resembles the
> > gentoo forums and perhaps a bit like the gentoo wiki
> > too... Heck... if you squint a bit and don't look real close,
> > brainstorm looks a bit like the gentoo bugs site too.
>
> Sure Jerry, it's not all that different from the forum or bugzilla but
> it's somehow more "accesible". 

I proposed that it should offer more than the Gentoo Forums and more than 
Bugzie too.  It should of course offer a good search as the Forums do, but 
what it must do is list dynamically the features/issues requested more and 
voted for by most people.  In other words, offer a real time view of what 
people are more interested in, want fixing, etc.  If we want Gentoo to be 
driven by its users needs (and desires) then this would be a representative 
system, which should hopefully spur devs to work in the right direction.  Of 
course, if I get all my mates to vote for stupid things then potentially 
stupid things will get developed.  There will be some checks and balances 
needed here to avoid such vote poisoning of the system - although it will 
probably be self regulating.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Brainstorm?

[Daniel Beecham]

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On 3/7/08, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome Daniel!
>
> The BrainStorm idea is a good one, but it closely resembles the gentoo
> forums
> and perhaps a bit like the gentoo wiki too... Heck... if you squint a bit
> and
> don't look real close, brainstorm looks a bit like the gentoo bugs site
> too.
>
> Probably a good place for this to land is in the wiki... Call it "my wish
> list" (sorry) or something else though. Also, if  the gentoo version
> closely
> copies the Ubunt BrainStorm, it desperately needs a better indexing
> method,
> other than offering "pages" and "pages" of unknown topics that you must
> page
> through to find something useful...
>
> Cheers All!
>

Would'nt that be the same thing, just as a subpage on the wiki?

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