[gentoo-user] portage confusion

[gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

Notice in the following portage has nothing to say
about "blockers" following a warning from
revdep-rebuild. And the -u switch calls forth an
earlier version of python but without the -u switch is
content to re-emerge the newer package which I already
have on my system.

This was all precipitated after emerge xcircuit I was
advised to upgrade tk and tclx and then
revdep-rebuild.

emerge -u tk just said zero packages to emerge. Not
"no ebuilds to satisfy 'tk'", zero packages. emerge -u
tclx upgraded to a slightly newer version however...


localhost heathen # revdep-rebuild
Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild

Checking reverse dependencies...

Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a
package update
will be emerged.

Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)

Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
  broken /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
(requires  libdb-4.2.so)
  broken /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
(requires  libdb-4.2.so)
 done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds)

Evaluating package order... done.
  (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot  =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
..........
Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Error: the <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 package
conflicts with another package;
!!!        the two packages cannot be installed on the
same system together.
!!!        Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
blockers.

For more information about Blocked Packages, please
refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture
is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked


revdep-rebuild failed to emerge all packages
you have the following choices:

- if emerge failed during the build, fix the problems
and re-run revdep-rebuild
    or
- use -X or --package-names as first argument (trys to
rebuild package, not exact
  ebuild)
    or
- set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~<your platform>" and/or
/etc/portage/package.unmask
  (and remove /root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order to be
evaluated again)
    or
- modify the above emerge command and run it manually
    or
- compile or unmerge unsatisfied packages manually,
remove temporary files and
  try again (you can edit package/ebuild list first)

To remove temporary files, please run:
rm /root/.revdep-rebuild*.?_*
localhost heathen # emerge -puv python

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r4 [2.3.5-r3]
USE="gdbm ipv6 ncurses readline ssl -berkdb -bootstrap
-build -doc -examples% -nocxx -nothreads% -tk -ucs2"
7,190 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 7,190
kB
localhost heathen # emerge -pv python

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6  USE="gdbm
ipv6 ncurses readline ssl -berkdb -bootstrap -build
-doc -examples -nocxx -nothreads -tk -ucs2" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0
kB

But xcircuit seems to work OK. Is it safe to just
ignore this? I mean, I just completed emerge -uD world
a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Notice in the following portage has nothing to say
> about "blockers" following a warning from
> revdep-rebuild. And the -u switch calls forth an
> earlier version of python but without the -u switch is
> content to re-emerge the newer package which I already
> have on my system.

Um, yes it does have something to say about blockers. It explicitly 
states that python-2.3.6-r2 conflicts with something else (probably 
python-updater):

> !!! Error: the <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 package
> conflicts with another package;
> !!!        the two packages cannot be installed on the
> same system together.
> !!!        Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
> blockers.

You have a python-2.3 and python-2.4 on your system,probably left over 
from ages ago, as emerge will not by default unmerge an older SLOT when 
you install a newer SLOT of a package.

You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but first find out what 
is using it:

equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might want to make a backup 
(just in case):

quickpkg =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

then run python-updater

Now do 
emerge -avuND world 
to make sure everything is up to date followed by
emerge -av --depclean
and
revdep-rebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:10:39 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:

> Notice in the following portage has nothing to say
> about "blockers" following a warning from
> revdep-rebuild. And the -u switch calls forth an
> earlier version of python but without the -u switch is
> content to re-emerge the newer package which I already
> have on my system.
> 
> This was all precipitated after emerge xcircuit I was
> advised to upgrade tk and tclx and then
> revdep-rebuild.
> 
> emerge -u tk just said zero packages to emerge. Not
> "no ebuilds to satisfy 'tk'", zero packages.

That's because you already have the latest available version of tk
installed, so there is nothing for emerge -u to do.

> All prepared. Starting rebuild...
> emerge --oneshot  =dev-lang/python-2.4.4-r6
> =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> ..........
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> !!! Error: the <dev-lang/python-2.3.6-r2 package
> conflicts with another package;
> !!!        the two packages cannot be installed on the
> same system together.
> !!!        Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine
> blockers.

You need to do what it says, run the emerge command from revdep-rebuild
with the --pretend option.

> localhost heathen # emerge -puv python

This is not the same. Python is slotted and it appears that your system
has, or at least needs, 2.3 and 2.4 so run the command it tells you to to
see what blocks what.


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

> 
> You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but
> first find out what 
> is using it:
> 
> equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> 
> If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
> want to make a backup 
> (just in case):

 
heathen@localhost ~ $ equery depends
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
[ Searching for packages depending on
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1732, in ?
    cmd.perform(local_opts)
  File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1117, in perform
    deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
pkg.get_compiletime_deps() + pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
'get_postmerge_deps'

Not exactly "nothing". Is this what you mean?

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> > You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely, but
> > first find out what
> > is using it:
> >
> > equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> >
> > If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
> > want to make a backup
> > (just in case):
>
> heathen@localhost ~ $ equery depends
> =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> [ Searching for packages depending on
> =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1732, in ?
>     cmd.perform(local_opts)
>   File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1117, in perform
>     deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
> pkg.get_compiletime_deps() + pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
> AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
> 'get_postmerge_deps'
>
> Not exactly "nothing". Is this what you mean?

No, that's an error. I've seen it somewhere before, but can't recall 
where. Can't recall what to do about it either.

If no-one else offers an opinion, I'd start by checking that all your 
portage tools still work properly: emerge, revdep-rebuild, the various 
tools in gentoolkit and portage-utils


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

--- Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> > > You can probably get rid of python-2.3 safely,
> but
> > > first find out what
> > > is using it:
> > >
> > > equery depends =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> > >
> > > If nothing, then unmerge it, but first you might
> > > want to make a backup
> > > (just in case):
> >
> > heathen@localhost ~ $ equery depends
> > =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> > [ Searching for packages depending on
> > =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1732, in ?
> >     cmd.perform(local_opts)
> >   File "/usr/bin/equery", line 1117, in perform
> >     deps = pkg.get_runtime_deps() +
> > pkg.get_compiletime_deps() +
> pkg.get_postmerge_deps()
> > AttributeError: Package instance has no attribute
> > 'get_postmerge_deps'
> >
> > Not exactly "nothing". Is this what you mean?
> 
> No, that's an error. I've seen it somewhere before,
> but can't recall 
> where. Can't recall what to do about it either.
> 
> If no-one else offers an opinion, I'd start by
> checking that all your 
> portage tools still work properly: emerge,
> revdep-rebuild, the various 
> tools in gentoolkit and portage-utils

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3443611.html?sid=1e11270e20684fdc0eea90b188f26344

Re-emerged gentoolkit.

Now I get:

heathen@localhost ~ $ equery depends
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
[ Searching for packages depending on
=dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
app-office/dia-0.95.1 (python?
>=dev-lang/python-1.5.2)
app-pda/libopensync-0.22 (python?
>=dev-lang/python-2.2)
app-portage/esearch-0.7.1 (>=dev-lang/python-2.2)
app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1
(>=dev-lang/python-2.0)
dev-java/java-config-1.3.7 (virtual/python)
dev-java/java-config-2.0.33-r1 (dev-lang/python)
                               (virtual/python)
dev-lang/swig-1.3.31 (python? virtual/python)
dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.30-r1 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-libs/libxslt-1.1.22 (python? dev-lang/python)
dev-python/cddb-py-1.4 (virtual/python)
dev-python/id3-py-1.2 (virtual/python)
dev-python/numeric-24.2-r6 (virtual/python)
                           (>=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/pycairo-1.4.0 (virtual/python)
                         (>=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pygtk-2.12.0 (>=dev-lang/python-2.3.5)
dev-python/pyid3lib-0.5.1-r1 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pyogg-1.3-r1 (dev-lang/python)
                        (virtual/python)
dev-python/pyopengl-2.0.0.44 (virtual/python)
dev-python/pysqlite-2.3.5 (virtual/python)
                          (>=dev-lang/python-2.3)
dev-python/python-fchksum-1.7.1 (dev-lang/python)
dev-python/pyvorbis-1.4-r1 (dev-lang/python)
                           (virtual/python)
dev-python/wxpython-2.6.4.0 (>=dev-lang/python-2.1)
dev-util/scons-0.96.1 (virtual/python)
                      (>=dev-lang/python-2.0)
gnome-base/libglade-2.6.2 (>=dev-lang/python-2.0-r7)
kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.7 (dev-lang/python)
media-libs/lcms-1.17 (python? >=dev-lang/python-1.5.2)
media-libs/mutagen-1.12 (virtual/python)
media-sound/dir2ogg-0.11 (virtual/python)
media-sound/jack-3.1.1 (virtual/python)
                       (>=virtual/python-1.5.2)
sys-apps/file-4.21-r1 (virtual/python)
sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.10 (python? dev-lang/python)
sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r9 (python?
>=virtual/python-2.2.1)
heathen@localhost ~ $       

Again, not "nothing". I can't unmerge all this stuff
can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 02 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:

> Re-emerged gentoolkit.
>
> Now I get:

<snip long list>

> heathen@localhost ~ $
>
> Again, not "nothing". I can't unmerge all this stuff
> can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

No, you don;t need to unmerge all of it - most of those are virtuals or 
any version of python > x

Run python-updater. That will remerge everything linked to 2.3 to 2.4

If all goes well then you can unmerge python-2.3.* and run 
revdep-rebuild as a last safety check. Be warned, python-updater iwll 
remerge a lot of stuff - it always does


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 01:34:30PM -0800, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked:
> Re-emerged gentoolkit.
> 
> Now I get:
> 
> heathen@localhost ~ $ equery depends
> =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> [ Searching for packages depending on
> =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3... ]
> app-office/dia-0.95.1 (python?
<snip>
> sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r9 (python?
> >=virtual/python-2.2.1)
> heathen@localhost ~ $       
> 
> Again, not "nothing". I can't unmerge all this stuff
> can I? Should I still run python-updater etc?

python-updater should've been run after you installed a new version of
python (I'm pretty sure it is in the ebuild).

equery depends is not smart enough to know that there is another
python on your system that satisfies the dependencies. What you should
look for in the output of equery depends is whether any of the
dependencies (as listed in the paranthesis after the package name) is
a hard dependency on a particular version of python. 

Basically, look for something that says =virtual/python-2.3 or 
<=virtual/python-2.3 or something like that. 

My cursory glance at the output you send suggests that nothing
explicitly depends on that particular version of python. So you
*should* be able to unmerge the old one. If something does break...
then file a bug at b.g.o. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

> python. So you
> *should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
> something does break...
> then file a bug at b.g.o. 

It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
place to use the && operator?

localhost heathen # emerge -pC python

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:


!!! 'dev-lang/python' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.


 dev-lang/python
    selected: 2.3.5-r3 2.4.4-r6
   protected: none
     omitted: none

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be
removed.

And does this mean it won't remerge anything but MAY
emerge something? If so, does that mean v2.4? I've
already got that:

localhost heathen # python-updater -p
 * Starting Python Updater from 2.3 to 2.4 :
 * Searching for packages with files in
/usr/lib/python2.3 /usr/lib32/python2.3
/usr/lib64/python2.3 ..
 * No packages needs to be remerged.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Daniel Pielmeier]

maxim wexler schrieb:
>> python. So you
>> *should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
>> something does break...
>> then file a bug at b.g.o. 
> 
> It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
> to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
> place to use the && operator?
> 

try emerge -pC =python-2.3.5-r3
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 03 March 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> > python. So you
> > *should* be able to unmerge the old one. If
> > something does break...
> > then file a bug at b.g.o.
>
> It want's to grab both of them. How do I move 2.4.4.r6
> to the protected column? Or should I? Is this a good
> place to use the && operator?
>
> localhost heathen # emerge -pC python


emerge -avC =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3


Unmerging python will leave you with an unusuable portage and you'll 
need a backup copy or other voodoo to get it going again. What you 
actually want is to remove just the SLOT you are no longer using


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 01:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> emerge -avC =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3

> Unmerging python will leave you with an unusuable portage and you'll 
> need a backup copy or other voodoo to get it going again. What you 
> actually want is to remove just the SLOT you are no longer using

Even so, I would quickpkg it first, just in case you accidentally remove
too much.


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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

> 
> quickpkg =dev-lang/python-2.3.5-r3
> 
done

> then run python-updater

localhost heathen # python-updater
 * Can't determine any previous Python version(s).

> 
> Now do 
> emerge -avuND world 
<...>
[blocks B     ] <app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 (is blocking
app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2)
<...>
So,

localhost heathen # emerge -pvC qca

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 app-crypt/qca
    selected: 2.0.0-r2
   protected: none
     omitted: none

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be
removed.

Seems like I've already got the package that's
supposedly blocked.

localhost heathen # emerge -vC app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3

--- Couldn't find 'app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge


So I unmerged then remerged the one I already got and
did emerge -auvND world.

Same thing. The link to the gentoo manual says I can
just ignore that particular package but it doesn't say
how.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Daniel Pielmeier]

  >> Now do
>> emerge -avuND world 
> <...>
> [blocks B     ] <app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 (is blocking
> app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2)
> <...>
> So,
> 
> localhost heathen # emerge -pvC qca
> 
>>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
> 
>  app-crypt/qca
>     selected: 2.0.0-r2
>    protected: none
>      omitted: none
> 
>>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be
> removed.
> 
> Seems like I've already got the package that's
> supposedly blocked.
> 
> localhost heathen # emerge -vC app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3' to unmerge.
> 
>>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
> 
> 
> So I unmerged then remerged the one I already got and
> did emerge -auvND world.
> 
> Same thing. The link to the gentoo manual says I can
> just ignore that particular package but it doesn't say
> how.

Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 
unmasked? You can add "=app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 ~whateverarchyouhave" to 
/etc/portage.keyords and try again "emerge -avuND world". Maybe you have 
to do emerge -av --oneshot =app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 before!
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[maxim wexler]

> Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have

kde-3.5.7. Tried to update to kde-4.0.x near the end
of January. This was after almost two years of not
updating anything. This led to a emerge -uD world
which took about a week over my string-and-can modem.
Many, many "failure to build" errors kept me returning
to the list for advice. See ,for instance, "emerge -uD
world: another obstacle" in the archive. It was like
crawling through the desert pursuing a mirage. I was
unmerging here remerging there. Maybe that's when
qca-2.0.0-r2 slipped into my system. I never
completely understood why kde-4 couldn't be emerged. I
ran update-eix and eix-sync. Even now when I do emerge
-u kde it just points to 3.5.8.

> app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 
> unmasked? You can add "=app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3
> ~whateverarchyouhave" to 
> /etc/portage.keyords and try again "emerge -avuND
> world". 

Ok, that worked. Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion

[Daniel Pielmeier]

>  > Are you using kde-4.0.x or why do you have
>
>
> kde-3.5.7. Tried to update to kde-4.0.x near the end
>  of January. This was after almost two years of not
>  updating anything. This led to a emerge -uD world
>  which took about a week over my string-and-can modem.
>  Many, many "failure to build" errors kept me returning
>  to the list for advice. See ,for instance, "emerge -uD
>  world: another obstacle" in the archive. It was like
>  crawling through the desert pursuing a mirage. I was
>  unmerging here remerging there. Maybe that's when
>  qca-2.0.0-r2 slipped into my system. I never
>  completely understood why kde-4 couldn't be emerged. I
>  ran update-eix and eix-sync. Even now when I do emerge
>  -u kde it just points to 3.5.8.
>
>
>  > app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2
>  > unmasked? You can add "=app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3
>  > ~whateverarchyouhave" to
>  > /etc/portage.keyords and try again "emerge -avuND
>  > world".
>
>
> Ok, that worked. Thanks.

So if you didn't manage to install kde-4.0.x, you should revert your
settings in /etc/portage/package.* and/or /etc/make.conf

For instance you should have app-crypt/qca-2.0.0-r2 in
/etc/portage/package.unmask which is not necessary if don't have
kde-4. And then you don't need app-crypt/qca-1.0-r3 in
/etc/portage/package.keywords either.

I don't want to be offensive, but I strongly recommend you to do some
cleanup! I also recommend to learn how to use portage (man portage,
man ebuild, man emerge, and so on), how to manage
/etc/package/package.*, revdep-rebuild and what emerge --depclean is
doing! Learn how to handle blockers, to unmerge a specific version of
a package if it is slotted and not needed anymore, or you will get in
such troubles all the time!

I would also recommend everybody to use udept which in my opinion is
far superior to all other portage tools (depclean, eix-test-obsolete
equery, and so on), or replaces many of them by one single tool. I use
it for cleanup and other stuff, but it has some problems currently
with USE_DEFAULTS and SLOT_DEPENDENCIES so it does not work correctly
and its output has to be interpreted in the right way. There is also a
bug open where an updated ebuild exists which solves other problems
the current version has. I hope this problems go away and the
maintainer of udept finds the time to work on it again, it would be a
great loss if not!

Btw, it is no problem to install kde-4 in parallel to kde-3! It is
just a bit tricky and you should have some experience of how gentoo
works. I would also not unmask a kde version which is currently masked
and do a world update in parallel when i had not updated my system for
about two years. It is expected that many problems occur if doing so
because there are enough problems anyway after such a long time not
having done update world!

Portage wants to install kde-3.5.8 because it is now stable, thus
normal! Kde-3.5.7 is not in the tree anymore, as far as i know. I am
no kde user but i figured this all out by just reading this list and a
bit research!

Update-eix has in most cases nothing to do with upgrade problems. It
is just a database listing your portage-tree. The only problem when
not doing update-eix is that you may reason the wrong things because
the database is out of date and you rely on the output of eix which is
wrong!

Regards,

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage confusion--FIXED

[maxim wexler]

> Now do 
> emerge -avuND world 
> to make sure everything is up to date followed by
> emerge -av --depclean
> and
> revdep-rebuild

<...>
Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All
done.

Amen.


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