[gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,

If you're looking for PC power supply on ebay and you
come across a Dynex, big quiet fan, PCI-E, SATA, 24
pin for cheap from 2213Joseph. "New in Box!" Don't buy
it. You'll get the Dynex box alright and a new PS but
it's just a run of the mill, noisy, substandard unit.
No SATA, no PCI-E etc.

This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
his 100% positive feedback.

I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.

Maxim


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[b.n.]

maxim wexler ha scritto:
> Hi group,
> 
> If you're looking for PC power supply on ebay and you
> come across a Dynex, big quiet fan, PCI-E, SATA, 24
> pin for cheap from 2213Joseph. "New in Box!" Don't buy
> it. You'll get the Dynex box alright and a new PS but
> it's just a run of the mill, noisy, substandard unit.
> No SATA, no PCI-E etc.
> 
> This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
> his 100% positive feedback.
> 
> I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.

That's why, I never buy hardware on eBay, and I discourage everyone to
do it.

Heck, I even had scams when buying CD-R.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Samstag, 1. März 2008, b.n. wrote:
> maxim wexler ha scritto:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > If you're looking for PC power supply on ebay and you
> > come across a Dynex, big quiet fan, PCI-E, SATA, 24
> > pin for cheap from 2213Joseph. "New in Box!" Don't buy
> > it. You'll get the Dynex box alright and a new PS but
> > it's just a run of the mill, noisy, substandard unit.
> > No SATA, no PCI-E etc.
> >
> > This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
> > his 100% positive feedback.
> >
> > I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.
>
> That's why, I never buy hardware on eBay, and I discourage everyone to
> do it.
>
> Heck, I even had scams when buying CD-R.

well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I was always a very 
satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to tapedrives and libs, I always 
got the right stuff. 
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] beware ebay seller

[Mick]

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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> On Samstag, 1. März 2008, b.n. wrote:
>> maxim wexler ha scritto:

>> > This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
>> > his 100% positive feedback.
>> >
>> > I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.
>>
>> That's why, I never buy hardware on eBay, and I discourage everyone to
>> do it.
>>
>> Heck, I even had scams when buying CD-R.
> 
> well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I was always a very
> satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to tapedrives and libs, I always
> got the right stuff.

Same here, I have bought a few PCs/laptops and various individual components
and have not yet had a problem.  However, I have only bought from HP-Compaq
online auction shop on ebay.co.uk.  They sell rebuilt, or end of line PCs,
usually with upgraded components and one year's manufacturer's warranty.  I
have found that as long as you don't get carried away you can get a machine
cheaper than any of the chains that sell them over here in the UK, even if
they are 'On Sale' at these shops.
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Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] beware ebay seller

[Dan Farrell]

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:21:48 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> 
> > On Samstag, 1. März 2008, b.n. wrote:
> >> maxim wexler ha scritto:
> 
> >> > This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
> >> > his 100% positive feedback.
> >> >
> >> > I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.
> >>
> >> That's why, I never buy hardware on eBay, and I discourage
> >> everyone to do it.
> >>
> >> Heck, I even had scams when buying CD-R.
> > 
> > well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I was always a
> > very satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to tapedrives and
> > libs, I always got the right stuff.
> 
> Same here, I have bought a few PCs/laptops and various individual
> components and have not yet had a problem.  However, I have only
> bought from HP-Compaq online auction shop on ebay.co.uk.  They sell
> rebuilt, or end of line PCs, usually with upgraded components and one
> year's manufacturer's warranty.  I have found that as long as you
> don't get carried away you can get a machine cheaper than any of the
> chains that sell them over here in the UK, even if they are 'On Sale'
> at these shops.
>

I don't buy on ebay much, although I bought my very first system there
(a pII xeon, oh I loved it).  anyhow, there's pretty good buyer
protection in place now.  your dispute should end well for you.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[Stroller]

On 1 Mar 2008, at 00:37, maxim wexler wrote:
> ...
> If you're looking for PC power supply on ebay and you
> come across a Dynex, big quiet fan, PCI-E, SATA, 24
> pin for cheap from 2213Joseph. "New in Box!" Don't buy
> it. You'll get the Dynex box alright and a new PS but
> it's just a run of the mill, noisy, substandard unit.
> No SATA, no PCI-E etc.
>
> This is such an obvious fraud it makes me wonder at
> his 100% positive feedback.
>
> I've started a dispute with Paypal against him.

Just to add to your other replies, it is just possible this is an  
honest mistake.

 From what you've told us it's possible that the seller didn't look  
inside the box and assumed it was a new PSU, after their spouse  
tidied the old one up into an empty box. Certainly, I always keep  
packaging in case I need to make a warranty return, and in the case  
that a PC is just misbehaving, with random reboots & stuff, the first  
thing I do is replace the PSU, keeping the old one in case that makes  
no difference.

I would email the seller in the first instance & see what they have  
to say. If, as a seller, I found I had made such a mistake, I would  
send you a refund or replacement immediately. As a buyer I wouldn't  
be prepared to pay the cost of shipping the duff component back to  
the seller, and wouldn't expect the seller to insist on that. If the  
seller isn't prepared to accommodate you then give them a negative  
feedback - a scammer with several negs will be quickly obvious from  
their feedback score, and will quickly lose sales. I personally  
wouldn't have high expectations of the "buyer protection" offered by  
fleaBay or ThievingScumPal.

Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[maxim wexler]

> 
> well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I
> was always a very 
> satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to
> tapedrives and libs, I always 
> got the right stuff. 

Me too. This has been my first experience of outright
fraud. I've been shipped the wrong stuff or broken
stuff but the seller always made good in the end.

mw


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[maxim wexler]

> 
>  From what you've told us it's possible that the
> seller didn't look  
> inside the box and assumed it was a new PSU, after
> their spouse  
> tidied the old one up into an empty box. Certainly,
> I always keep  
> packaging in case I need to make a warranty return,
> and in the case  
> that a PC is just misbehaving, with random reboots &
> stuff, the first  
> thing I do is replace the PSU, keeping the old one
> in case that makes  
> no difference.

Nah, this guy sells lots of them. The power supply he
did mail is brand new -- just not the one I thought I
was buying. The box originally had been sealed by Best
Buy. The box came with the original Dynex User Guide.
My theory: these are cheap run of the mill PSs put
into Dynex boxes acquired from Best Buy which used the
original PSs in their PCs. The seller took a picture
of the box and put that on eBay. When the order comes
in he takes a shiny new PS "New" and puts it in the
Dynex box "in Box!". So, technically he hasn't lied.
Typical scamster M.O.

> 
> I would email the seller in the first instance & see
> what they have  
> to say. 

No reply

> feedback - a scammer with several negs will be
> quickly obvious from  
> their feedback score, 

This is puzzling. Maybe the seller gets his family and
friends to "buy" stuff and give him props. Then he
runs his scam, cancels his account and starts another.
Where's my tinfoil hat!


> personally  
> wouldn't have high expectations of the "buyer
> protection" offered by  
> fleaBay or ThievingScumPal.
> 
It should be in their best interest to supply good
service.

mw






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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] beware ebay seller

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> > well, I buyed hardware over 40 times on ebay - and I
> > was always a very
> > satisfied costumer. From mainboards, cpus to
> > tapedrives and libs, I always
> > got the right stuff.
>
> Me too. This has been my first experience of outright
> fraud. I've been shipped the wrong stuff or broken
> stuff but the seller always made good in the end.

once I bought a cheap soundcard. I got it, everything was fine.

Ca one year later I got a letter from ebay - they would be investigating the 
seller because of fraud and if there had been any trouble with that person.
...
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