[gentoo-user] Portage issue

[gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Robert Stockdale IV]

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I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. When I run emerge --sync,
it claims that there is an updated version of portage, and I should run
emerge portage before updating any packages. When I run emerge -pv portage I
get:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
[ebuild     U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE="-bindist -gmp
-test" 151 kB [0]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)

Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage



When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:

....snipped...
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B     ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking media-libs/libdca-0.0.5)
[blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is blocking sys-fs/device-
mapper-1.02.22-r5)
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)
[blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
[blocks B     ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato-
0.8.6.2)
[blocks B     ] <sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
[blocks B     ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1)
[blocks B     ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1)
[blocks B     ] <media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev-
3.23.1)
[blocks B     ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
linux-2.13.1)
[blocks B     ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking net-libs/libgssglue-0.1)
[blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new slots, 13
blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system up to
date.
Thank you,
Bob

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Kenneth Prugh]

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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +0000
"Robert Stockdale IV" <bobstockdale@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. When I run emerge
> --sync, it claims that there is an updated version of portage, and I
> should run emerge portage before updating any packages. When I run
> emerge -pv portage I get:
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
> [ebuild     U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE="-bindist
> -gmp -test" 151 kB [0]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
> -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
> *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
>     then resume the merge.
> [ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
> -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
> 
> Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
> 
> 
> 
> When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:
> 
> ....snipped...
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
> -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
> *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
>     then resume the merge.
> [ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
> -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
> [blocks B     ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
> media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is
> blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) [blocks B     ]
> dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)
> [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
> sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
> [blocks B     ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking
> sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1) [blocks B     ] sys-apps/mktemp (is
> blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B     ]
> <media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
> media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17) [blocks B     ]
> <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)
> [blocks B     ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
> linux-2.13.1)
> [blocks B     ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
> net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) [blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/coreutils-6.10
> (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)
> 
> Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new
> slots, 13 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
>  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon
> 
> 
> What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system
> up to date.
> Thank you,
> Bob

Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.

The others I'm not positive of.

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Plus I mask "x86" only in portage because says "masked by: missing
keyword" while emerging, it means that the packages isn't available
for your architecture yet, i.e. you are running x86_64 and the
package has for instance "x86" keyword only. If you really need that
package, then you can try: echo "category/package x86 ~x86" >>
/etc/portage/package.keywords to override it for package in a
category. (Note: I've used the unstable "~x86" since the rest of
Sabayon is running with unstable keywords anyway). As Gentoo is
source based there's good chance of package compiling and working
without modifications.

2nd solution is to emerge autounmask and use it for every single package

3nd remove packages not familiar how they work

4nd  the book says :

Invalid method (DO NOT USE)

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge gnome-extra/gdesklets-core , so this
has to be done x86 any way,

5nd Usage: flagedit <atom> -- +<keyword>, for example flagedit
dev-util/libconf -- +~x86
>>
>> When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:
>>
>> ....snipped...
>> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
>> -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
>> *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
>>     then resume the merge.
>> [ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
>> -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
>> [blocks B     ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
>> media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is
>> blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
>> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
>> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) [blocks B     ]
>> dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
>> sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
>> [blocks B     ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking
>> sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1) [blocks B     ] sys-apps/mktemp (is
>> blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B     ]
>> <media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
>> media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17) [blocks B     ]
>> <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)
>> [blocks B     ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
>> linux-2.13.1)
>> [blocks B     ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
>> net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) [blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/coreutils-6.10
>> (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)
>>
>> Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new
>> slots, 13 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
>> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
>> Portage tree and overlays:
>>  [0] /usr/portage
>>  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon
>>
>>
>> What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system
>> up to date.
>> Thank you,
>> Bob
> 
> Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
> setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.
> 
> The others I'm not positive of.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)

emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
does not block

> [blocks B     ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
> media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) 

You cannot use these together. libdca-0.0.5 will not emerge if any 
version of libdts is present. The descriptions indicate they do the 
same thing so figure out which you don't need

> [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is 
> blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)

device-mapper wants to be installed before udev is updated. emerge udev 
first, then device-mapper

> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) 

ksync is a meta kde ebuild, kdelibs is monolithic. These two cannot be 
used together. See the KDE howto

> [blocks B     ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking 
app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)

Don't know what portato is...

> [blocks B     ] sys-apps/mktemp (is 
> blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) 

mktemp is now in coreutils. emerge -C mktemp

> [blocks B     ] 
> <media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
> media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)

update gst-plugin-ugly first to 0.10.6-r1

> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
> sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)

update baselayout first. if this doesn't work, unmerge makedev, update 
baselayout then put makedev back. DO NOT unmerge baselayout.

> [blocks B     ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
> linux-2.13.1)

Dunno :-)

> [blocks B     ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
> net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) 

Dunno :-)

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Re: {Disarmed} [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Neil Walker]

Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
> I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. 

Sabayon creates a complete mess. You have 3 alternatives:

1. Wait for the next Sabayon release and install that.
2. Remove Sabayon and install Gentoo.
3. Spend weeks trying to turn Sabayon into Gentoo. It can be done in 
days if you really know what you are doing but it's a lot of work.

Be lucky,

Neil


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Mateusz Mierzwinski]

Alan McKinnon pisze:
> On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
>> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
>>     
>
> emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
> does not block
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
>> media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) 
>>     
>
> You cannot use these together. libdca-0.0.5 will not emerge if any 
> version of libdts is present. The descriptions indicate they do the 
> same thing so figure out which you don't need
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is 
>> blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)
>>     
>
> device-mapper wants to be installed before udev is updated. emerge udev 
> first, then device-mapper
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) 
>>     
>
> ksync is a meta kde ebuild, kdelibs is monolithic. These two cannot be 
> used together. See the KDE howto
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking 
>>     
> app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)
>
> Don't know what portato is...
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] sys-apps/mktemp (is 
>> blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) 
>>     
>
> mktemp is now in coreutils. emerge -C mktemp
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] 
>> <media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
>> media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)
>>     
>
> update gst-plugin-ugly first to 0.10.6-r1
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
>> sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)
>>     
>
> update baselayout first. if this doesn't work, unmerge makedev, update 
> baselayout then put makedev back. DO NOT unmerge baselayout.
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
>> linux-2.13.1)
>>     
>
> Dunno :-)
>
>   
>> [blocks B     ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
>> net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) 
>>     
>
> Dunno :-)
>
>   
Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:

> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).

Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[b.n.]

Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
> 
>> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
> 
> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
> 

Graphical User Interface.

Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag, 4. Februar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
> > Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
>
> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?

A GUY who lost his `
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Mateusz Mierzwinski]

Alan McKinnon pisze:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
>
>   
>> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
>>     
>
> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>
>   
Graphical user interface / frontend - as You like ;). I've been using 
portato for curious, but there's nothing like console experience ;).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Robert Stockdale IV]

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On Feb 3, 2008 6:49 PM, Kenneth Prugh <ken69267@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +0000
> "Robert Stockdale IV" <bobstockdale@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > ....snipped...
>
> Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
> setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.
>
> The others I'm not positive of.
>


OK, I've got it pared down to some degree. These few block programs in
portage are still preventing a world update and I don't believe I can remove
them without destroying my system. They are:

[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)
[blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev-
3.23.1)

Total: 617 packages (568 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 35 new, 9 in new slots, 3
blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


I'm thinking that there must be a way to hold back the upgrade on these last
three files in order to permit the portage upgrade.
When I do emerge -pv portage I get:

java bob # emerge -pv portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
[ebuild     U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE="-bindist -gmp
-test" 151 kB [0]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE="-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)

Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage


So it looks like the important one to look at is:
  <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
So if I could prevent the update to bash then portage should update. Is this
correct? How would I do this?

Thank you,
Bob

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Dale]

Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 6:49 PM, Kenneth Prugh <ken69267@gmail.com
> <mailto:ken69267@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +0000
>     "Robert Stockdale IV" <bobstockdale@gmail.com
>     <mailto:bobstockdale@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     > ....snipped...
>
>     Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
>     setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.
>
>     The others I'm not positive of.
>
>
>
> OK, I've got it pared down to some degree. These few block programs in
> portage are still preventing a world update and I don't believe I can
> remove them without destroying my system. They are:
>
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
> sys-apps/makedev-3.23.1)
>
> Total: 617 packages (568 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 35 new, 9 in new
> slots, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
> Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
>  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon
>
>
> I'm thinking that there must be a way to hold back the upgrade on
> these last three files in order to permit the portage upgrade.
> When I do emerge -pv portage I get:
>
> java bob # emerge -pv portage
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1
> <http://1.2.18.1>] 232 kB [0]
> [ebuild     U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE="-bindist
> -gmp -test" 151 kB [0]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 <http://2.1.4.1> [2.1.3.4-r1]
> USE="-build -doc -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl*" 361 kB [0]
> *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
>     then resume the merge.
> [ebuild     U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE="nls -afs
> -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB [0]
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
>
> Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
>
>
> So it looks like the important one to look at is:
>   <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
> So if I could prevent the update to bash then portage should update.
> Is this correct? How would I do this?
>
> Thank you,
> Bob

He wrote this earlier.  Quoting his reply:

> On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
>
>   
>> > [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
>> > app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
>>     
>
> emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
> does not block
>
>   


So hopefully if you sync again that will fix that.  Hopefully nothing
else will pop up tho.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Daniel Pielmeier]

> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)

emerge --oneshot --nodeps portage
and then a normal
emerge portage

> [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)

I think somebody has mentioned this before ksync is part of the new
kdelibs so unmerge it to merge the new kdelibs.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-expat-upgrading.xml

> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev-3.23.1)

Not 100% sure but you can try the same as above for portage:

emerge --oneshot --nodeps baselayout
emerge baselayout

Then hopefully you are ready for a world update!

By the way that are the reasons you have chosen Sabayon over the
original Gentoo?
Just curios.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
> Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
> > On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
> >> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
> >
> > Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>
> Graphical User Interface.
>
> Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.

I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
post :-)

I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
much a command line job


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
>   
>> Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
>>     
>>> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
>>>>         
>>> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>>>       
>> Graphical User Interface.
>>
>> Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.
>>     
>
> I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
> post :-)
>
> I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
> much a command line job
>
>
>   

Well, I emerged porthole just to see what it looks like.  Well, It's
there.  I then went to a command line to see what was really going on.  O_O

eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
with something else??

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Eddie Mihalow Jr]

Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
>>   
>>> Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
>>>     
>>>> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
>>>>>         
>>>> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>>>>       
>>> Graphical User Interface.
>>>
>>> Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.
>>>     
>> I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
>> post :-)
>>
>> I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
>> much a command line job
>>
>>
>>   
> 
> Well, I emerged porthole just to see what it looks like.  Well, It's
> there.  I then went to a command line to see what was really going on.  O_O
> 
> eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
> with something else??
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
I like Porthole just to look at the big picture, not to install, remove, 
or anything. It is a
great tool to see what you have installed, what you might like to 
install, and look at the ebuilds.
Just another tool.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:31:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).  
> 
> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?

Konsole :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Ricardo Saffi Marques]

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GUI = Graphical User Interface

On 2/4/08, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 02:31:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> > > Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
> >
> > Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>
> Konsole :)
>
>
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>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Stroller]

On 4 Feb 2008, at 11:29, Dale wrote:
> ...
> eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
> with something else??

I've been using eix for a while & am really comfortable with it.

Replacement would seem to be WELL overdue, by my previous experiences  
with Gentoo tools.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:13:26 -0200, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:

> GUI = Graphical User Interface

Really? You don't say! ;-)

PS Please don't top post. Flow of text messes up it does. Harder reading
makes much.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Montag, 4. Februar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
> > > Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
> >
> > Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>
> A GUY who lost his `

<mutter> <mutter> <grumble> <grumble>

These kids with their new-fangled contraptions. I'd just gotten the hang 
of W now they want me to switch to X. They say it's New! Improved! 
Better! and uses some weird thing called a "mouse". Bloody rodents.

Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Dale wrote:
> eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
> with something else??

You've only just found eix????!!!!???? You must have bandwidth 
issues :-) :-)

eix is the best thing to hit portage since portage. Or maybe paludis. I 
find gentoo virtually unusable without eix

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:13:26 -0200, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:
> > GUI = Graphical User Interface
>
> Really? You don't say! ;-)
>
> PS Please don't top post. Flow of text messes up it does. Harder
> reading makes much.

Yoda, is that really you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> > [blocks B     ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
> > kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
>
> I think somebody has mentioned this before ksync is part of the new
> kdelibs so unmerge it to merge the new kdelibs.
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-expat-upgrading.xml

Maybe I should explain a bit more in detail how the OP should fix this, 
as finding kde blockers between the -meta and monolithic ebuilds is not 
a cut and dried process.

First, I assume he has read the emerging KDE howto on the gentoo docs 
site, and understands the difference between -meta ebuilds, monolithic 
ebuilds and package ebuilds. There's not much to indicate which is 
which except that the -meta ebuilds have -meta in their name. Over time 
I have learned which are the packages distributed by kde.org and now 
recognize them by name. The monolithic ebuilds must then be the same 
without the -meta name. So, everything else is probably a package 
ebuild.

Golden rule: You cannot mix these types, you must use one or the other. 
To determine blockers, there's no command I know of that does 
eg "equery blocks <package>" so I resort to good old grep:

alan@nazgul ~ $ grep -r ksync /var/portage/kde-base/*/*ebuild | grep 
kdelibs
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r1.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r2.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.7-r3.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8.ebuild:     !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r1.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r2.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"
/var/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.8-r3.ebuild:  !kde-base/ksync"

So, kdelibs will not install along with ksync. Now to determine what 
installs ksync:

alan@nazgul ~ $ equery depends ksync
[ Searching for packages depending on ksync... ]

No results. Bugger. That means I don't have ksync installed, so equery 
can't find the info for me. Time to search the tree (this is slooooow). 
So one cup of coffee later:

alan@nazgul ~ $ equery depends -a ksync
[ Searching for packages depending on ksync... ]
app-pda/syncekonnector-0.3_pre20060117 (=kde-base/ksync-3.5*)
app-pda/syncekonnector-0.3.2 (=kde-base/ksync-3.5*)
kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.5.5 (~kde-base/ksync-3.5.5)
kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.5.6 (~kde-base/ksync-3.5.6)

OK, Now we are getting there. kdepim-meta will install all sub-packages 
of kdepim. syncekonnector (probably part of kdepim-meta too) will also 
install ksync. Plus, kdepim (monolithic) will install all the same 
files as kdepim-meta, but not as individual packages. On to solutions 
for the OPs problem:

Don't merge ksync, do merge kdepim.
Convert to the -meta ebuilds and emerge ksync. 

This last is a lot of effort but worth it. I did it by running "eix kde" 
and listing what I had, unmerge the monolithic ebuilds and merge the 
corresponding -meta ones. It's an iterative process, I had to go back 
and find more stuff to unmerge once or twice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Dale]

Stroller wrote:
>
> On 4 Feb 2008, at 11:29, Dale wrote:
>> ...
>> eix is sort of growing on me tho.  I wonder when they will replace it
>> with something else??
>
> I've been using eix for a while & am really comfortable with it.
>
> Replacement would seem to be WELL overdue, by my previous experiences
> with Gentoo tools.
>
> Stroller.

Yea, when I got sort of used to etcat, they replaced it with eix.  I
just recently started to really using eix a fair bit.  I suspect they
are getting a new thing ready.  Sort of keep me confused ya know.   ;-)

Oh well, at least it keeps getting better.  LFS would be fun for sure. 
We'd be writing scripts like crazy.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[b.n.]

Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
>>> On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
>>>> Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
>>> Ermmmmm, hmmmmmmm, what's a GUI?
>> Graphical User Interface.
>>
>> Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.
> 
> I know, I had my tongue very firmly in my cheek when I made that 
> post :-)

Ops. My irony sensors must be badly broken today. Probably spending
nights writing a badly procrastinated ph.d. thesis does not help. :)

> I can't imagine how one would run portage in a GUI - to me it's very 
> much a command line job

Well, on Debian-like systems I absolutely *love* Synaptic. To me, it's
what a user-friendly package manager should look like.
I have only very little experience with Portage GUIs. Problem, it seems,
is that there isn't one single project where people is focused (Kuroo,
Porthole, and now Portato which I didn't know).

The Portage CLI is fine with me, but I'd like to know about the GUI
options. They can always be handy.

(On my wild dreams, once I thought to write a Python-based FUSE
filesystem abstracting Portage. I did never ever went further than the
very early planning phase, mostly because FUSE documentation was a
nightmare. I'd like to know what people think of it,anyway.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Dale wrote:
> Oh well, at least it keeps getting better.  LFS would be fun for
> sure. We'd be writing scripts like crazy.  LOL

Gentoo: Build your own kit car! Just need spanners!

LFS: Build your own spanners to build your own kit car! Oh, and you need 
to design it yourself. We'll sell you the sheet metal for the body 
though :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, b.n. wrote:
> On my wild dreams, once I thought to write a Python-based FUSE
> filesystem abstracting Portage.

I'm confused by this. Portage is already a filesystem, why would you 
want to abstract a filesystem as a filesystem...? I can't see the point

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?

MMIIX


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?
>
> MMIIX

You bugger you. Now I have to dig back 25 years in memory to high school 
Latin classes to decode that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 04 February 2008 21:09:14 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 04 February 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:12:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Oh wait, what year did you say it was again?
> >
> > MMIIX
>
> You bugger you. Now I have to dig back 25 years in memory to high school
> Latin classes to decode that.

You whipper-snapper you. 25 years? 52 in my case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Michael Schmarck]

Hello!


Alan McKinnon-2 wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
> 
>> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
>> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
> 
> emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
> does not block
> 

Hm. Are you sure?

I just installed 2007.0 and set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86. I then
did a emerge --sync followed by an "emerge -vat portage". Result:

test9 / # emerge -vat portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge      ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] USE="-build -doc -epydoc
(-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl" 
[ebuild     U ]  app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.1_p17] USE="-afs -bashlogger nls
-plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB 
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] USE="-build -doc -epydoc
(-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl" 368 kB 
[nomerge      ]  dev-lang/python-2.5.1-r5  USE="berkdb -bootstrap -build
-doc -examples gdbm -ipv6 ncurses -nothreads readline -sqlite ssl -tk -ucs2" 
[ebuild  N    ]   app-admin/python-updater-0.4  4 kB 
[ebuild  NS   ]  dev-lang/python-2.5.1-r5  USE="berkdb -bootstrap -build
-doc -examples gdbm -ipv6 ncurses -nothreads readline -sqlite ssl -tk -ucs2"
9,174 kB 
[ebuild     U ]  sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.17] 232 kB 
[blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)

Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 1 new, 1 in new slot, 1 block), Size of
downloads: 12,338 kB

!!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
installed
!!!        at the same time on the same system.

For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

How do you get around this blocker?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Portage issue

[Michael Schmarck]

Michael Schmarck <michael.schmarck <at> habmalnefrage.de> writes:


> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge      ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] USE="-build -doc -epydoc
> (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl" 
> [ebuild     U ]  app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.1_p17] USE="-afs -bashlogger nls
> -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB 
[...]
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
> 
> Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 1 new, 1 in new slot, 1 block), Size of
> downloads: 12,338 kB
> 
> !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> installed
> !!!        at the same time on the same system.
[...]
> How do you get around this blocker?

emerge -1av =app-shells/bash-3.2_p17-r1 && emerge portage

That solved it for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Alan McKinnon-2 wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
> >> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> >> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
> >
> > emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that
> > bash does not block
>
> Hm. Are you sure?

Not so much anymore...

One of the admins at work is having similar troubles with a machine not 
updated for a while. I didn't go through this on my notebook which is 
updated weekly, so perhaps I hit an ideal window of opportunity between 
commits. 

Let's look at this in more detail:

You have portage-2.1.2.2 and want to upgrade to 2.1.4.4
You have bash-3.1_p17 and want to upgrade to 3.2_33

bash-3.1_p17 has no DEPEND blockers
bash-3.2-p17-r1 has no DEPEND blockers
bash-3.2_p33 blocks <portage-2.1.4-rc1

portage-2.1.2.12 requires >=app-shells/bash-3.1_p17
portage-2.1.3.19 requires >=app-shells/bash-3.2_p17
portage-2.1.4.4  requires >=app-shells/bash-3.2_p17


Ignore the conditional blocker from portage as you should not have build 
in USE. Now aside from what on earth certain versions of portage have 
to do with certain versions of bash...

try this:

emerge bash-3.2-p17-r1
emerge portage
emerge bash

> I just installed 2007.0 and set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86. I then
> did a emerge --sync followed by an "emerge -vat portage". Result:
>
> test9 / # emerge -vat portage
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge      ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] USE="-build -doc
> -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl"
> [ebuild     U ]  app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.1_p17] USE="-afs
> -bashlogger nls -plugins% -vanilla" 2,564 kB
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 [2.1.2.2] USE="-build -doc
> -epydoc (-selinux)" LINGUAS="-pl" 368 kB
> [nomerge      ]  dev-lang/python-2.5.1-r5  USE="berkdb -bootstrap
> -build -doc -examples gdbm -ipv6 ncurses -nothreads readline -sqlite
> ssl -tk -ucs2" [ebuild  N    ]   app-admin/python-updater-0.4  4 kB
> [ebuild  NS   ]  dev-lang/python-2.5.1-r5  USE="berkdb -bootstrap
> -build -doc -examples gdbm -ipv6 ncurses -nothreads readline -sqlite
> ssl -tk -ucs2" 9,174 kB
> [ebuild     U ]  sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.17] 232 kB
> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
> app-shells/bash-3.2_p33)
>
> Total: 5 packages (3 upgrades, 1 new, 1 in new slot, 1 block), Size
> of downloads: 12,338 kB
>
> !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> installed
> !!!        at the same time on the same system.
>
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
> following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is
> irrelevant):
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
>
> How do you get around this blocker?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Michael Schmarck]

Good morning!


Alan McKinnon-2 wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Alan McKinnon-2 wrote:
>> > On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
>> >> [blocks B     ] <sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
>> >> app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
>> >
>> > emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that
>> > bash does not block
>>
>> Hm. Are you sure?
> 
> Not so much anymore...
>  

;-)


Alan McKinnon-2 wrote:
> 
> try this:
> 
> emerge bash-3.2-p17-r1
> emerge portage
> emerge bash
> 

This worked for me, as I found out a short while after I posted
my original message :) Thanks a lot for your explanation. This
way, it's at least understandable *WHY* this works ;-)

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:

> > emerge bash-3.2-p17-r1
> > emerge portage
> > emerge bash
>
> This worked for me, as I found out a short while after I posted
> my original message :) Thanks a lot for your explanation. This
> way, it's at least understandable *WHY* this works ;-)

You're welcome. What I'd like to know is in which universe portage could 
block bash <puzzled>

It just sounds a bit daft, sort of like OpenOffice blocking mutt...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Rumen Yotov]

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Alan McKinnon написа:
> On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> 
>>> emerge bash-3.2-p17-r1
>>> emerge portage
>>> emerge bash
>> This worked for me, as I found out a short while after I posted
>> my original message :) Thanks a lot for your explanation. This
>> way, it's at least understandable *WHY* this works ;-)
> 
> You're welcome. What I'd like to know is in which universe portage could 
> block bash <puzzled>
> 
> It just sounds a bit daft, sort of like OpenOffice blocking mutt...
> 
Hi,

Thinking about it, much of portage is bash-scripts, no.
Maybe some portage features depend on newer bash functions, just guessing.
HTH. Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:28:57AM +0200, Penguin Lover Rumen Yotov squawked:
> >You're welcome. What I'd like to know is in which universe portage could 
> >block bash <puzzled>
> >
> >It just sounds a bit daft, sort of like OpenOffice blocking mutt...
> >
> Thinking about it, much of portage is bash-scripts, no.
> Maybe some portage features depend on newer bash functions, just guessing.
> HTH. Rumen

See bgo#196278 and the bash changelog 
 http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/COMPAT
In particular point 29 about handling of the % character in parameter
replacement. 

In short, bash changes behaviour (another one is how special
characters in regexp inside a test is dealt with; that one bit me
personally). Rather than coding portage to switch function/variable
definitions based on bash version, the portage devs feel that it is
easier to just make it depend on the newer version of bash. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:28:57AM +0200, Penguin Lover Rumen Yotov 
squawked:
> > >You're welcome. What I'd like to know is in which universe portage
> > > could block bash <puzzled>
> > >
> > >It just sounds a bit daft, sort of like OpenOffice blocking
> > > mutt...
> >
> > Thinking about it, much of portage is bash-scripts, no.
> > Maybe some portage features depend on newer bash functions, just
> > guessing. HTH. Rumen
>
> See bgo#196278 and the bash changelog
>  http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/COMPAT
> In particular point 29 about handling of the % character in parameter
> replacement.
>
> In short, bash changes behaviour (another one is how special
> characters in regexp inside a test is dealt with; that one bit me
> personally). 

OK, that now makes a lot of sense, thanks.

> Rather than coding portage to switch function/variable 
> definitions based on bash version, 

which would be disgustingly ugly :-)

> the portage devs feel that it is 
> easier to just make it depend on the newer version of bash.

Yes, a very sane decision


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