[gentoo-user] paludis vs emerge

[gentoo-user] paludis vs emerge

[David Relson]

I've been experimenting with paludis for the last month or two to
compare it with emerge.  For my periodic "update world" runs the two
programs seem functionally comparable.  Paludis is, however, more
verbose and I'm not liking that aspect.

My typical emerge command is "emerge -auDtqv world" and produces:

  [ebuild   UD] kde-base/kde-3.5.7 [3.5.8] USE="..." 
  [ebuild   U ] sys-apps/paludis-0.26.0_alpha9 [0.26.0_alpha7] USE="..."
  [noomerge   ] kde-base/kde-3.5.7 [3.5.8] USE="..." 
  [nomerge    ] sys-apps/paludis-0.26.0_alpha9 [0.26.0_alpha7] ...
  [ebuild   U ]  dev-libs/boost-1.34.1-r2 [1.34.1-r1] ...
  [ebuild   UD] app-misc/mime-types-5 [7] ..

  Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no

  Quitting.

I like the one brevity as I can see a lot of information and then
decide whether to go ahead or not.

"paludis --show-use-descriptions none -p -i world" lets me see
what's going to happen.  On the down side, I need to run it a
second time (without the "-p") to install the packages.  Also,
paludis first prints a bunch of informational messages and then prints 4
info lines per package.

Have I overlooked an option comparable to "--ask" ?

Have I overlooked an option to suppress the initial messages.

Thanks.

David
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Re: [gentoo-user] paludis vs emerge

[Brian Marshall]

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:30:55 -0500
David Relson <relson@osagesoftware.com> wrote:

> I've been experimenting with paludis for the last month or two to
> compare it with emerge.  For my periodic "update world" runs the two
> programs seem functionally comparable.  Paludis is, however, more
> verbose and I'm not liking that aspect.
> 
> My typical emerge command is "emerge -auDtqv world" and produces:
> 
>   [ebuild   UD] kde-base/kde-3.5.7 [3.5.8] USE="..." 
>   [ebuild   U ] sys-apps/paludis-0.26.0_alpha9 [0.26.0_alpha7]
> USE="..." [noomerge   ] kde-base/kde-3.5.7 [3.5.8] USE="..." 
>   [nomerge    ] sys-apps/paludis-0.26.0_alpha9 [0.26.0_alpha7] ...
>   [ebuild   U ]  dev-libs/boost-1.34.1-r2 [1.34.1-r1] ...
>   [ebuild   UD] app-misc/mime-types-5 [7] ..
> 
>   Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no
> 
>   Quitting.
> 
> I like the one brevity as I can see a lot of information and then
> decide whether to go ahead or not.
> 
> "paludis --show-use-descriptions none -p -i world" lets me see
> what's going to happen.  On the down side, I need to run it a
> second time (without the "-p") to install the packages.  Also,
> paludis first prints a bunch of informational messages and then
> prints 4 info lines per package.
> 
> Have I overlooked an option comparable to "--ask" ?
> 
No, Paludis is non-interactive.

> Have I overlooked an option to suppress the initial messages.
> 
Use --compact to compress the package output and --log-level to control
the amount of informational messages.

> Thanks.
> 
> David



	Brian

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Re: [gentoo-user] paludis vs emerge

[Dirk Heinrichs]

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Am Samstag, 26. Januar 2008 schrieb Brian Marshall:

> > Have I overlooked an option comparable to "--ask" ?
>
> No, Paludis is non-interactive.

Nonsense (sorry). --ask functionality is added with a hook script. paludis -ip 
paludis-hooks. You'll get them from the paludis-extras overlay.

Bye...

	Dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] paludis vs emerge

[Ralf Stephan]

> > Have I overlooked an option comparable to "--ask" ?
> > 
> No, Paludis is non-interactive.

With 700 packages, paludis takes quite long here to give output,
and having that double is irritating. Would it be possible to
cache computations such that the second time (without -p) at least
would be faster?


Regards,
ralf
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