From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEsoE-0005Mk-DK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:54:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20C25E077B; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCDBE04CC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so279946nfh.26 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:54:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=uWbGJhsIlzNrp4BaCS20r1NJMtBg/LJ9A6XS9SErO14=; b=plte1acYCJ+Ah4HPWizQ0OEbu/vwrTPYzyyKnQTklWNlqDC1R1ZDaR7sV0dCDZW9Rp6C1paFW/m06wBPO8d8H0P73yMjZSeeJVSt6kO1QbLhDk7pssfgZa10uRljuiy/XuHUJHqrwzBvwM9Zwt9vz0tkNxiGdhY9tnJaHj9aTn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=UqeU02hIQbceyFr6UxupPsOTcBV4jqt21dO9gKLfM88n6xVMZkfEOQWIHszfO2E1A8XrIynj5s3zPk1HI1ow8hgOW6EBUNC607uUJGrCuAzj6d1+RcQrI3h+pvwg6gv1W+Pj9mXEkIh3KHs3043VYjHJRBwEAgjmOMlAFXOz3+g= Received: by 10.78.185.15 with SMTP id i15mr9713901huf.61.1200430470236; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.237.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm267702nfi.22.2008.01.15.12.54.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:54:29 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:48:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <200801120113.30788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <478D0791.4040502@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <478D0791.4040502@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801152248.54895.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: dfb66819-7e33-411c-a645-54feec77e4ef X-Archives-Hash: 1592bea0d15ddb8d10afa632b1e69aab On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Eric Martin wrote: > > Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo > > installer is probably the wrong target market and should be > > referred to other distros that will suit their needs better. This > > is not a troll or an elitist statement, it's just recognizing what > > gentoo is and what it isn't - it's not a distro suitable for > > someone to whom chroot isn't yet second nature. > > =C2=A0 > > I don't think it's an elitist statement, I agree in thinking that we > shouldn't cater to the lcd. =C2=A0There are plenty of distros out there > that work just fine and the greatest thing about FOSS is choice. =C2=A0If > all of the options are the same there's no point. =C2=A0Again though, I > have to disagree with the point that it's not for somebody whom > chroot isn't yet second nature: I learned chroot through the install. > =C2=A0I've tried playing around with Fedora / Ubunttu but I keep going > back to Gentoo; it's my favorite distro. I know my statement about chroot looks like it should be taken=20 literally, but it wasn't meant that way. Read it more as illustrative,=20 that the potential user should be reasonably familiar with the more=20 unusual commands in *nix systems - chroot, grep, the idea of pipes and=20 redirection and many many more. After all if they are going to be using=20 these tools, they should know something about them. =2D-=20 Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list