From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEXqk-0006vs-Gu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:32:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 997F7E060D; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAAAE05FB for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:30:38 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEtxi0fO+IKNdGdsb2JhbACQBgEwmQh9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,284,1196658000"; d="scan'208";a="12662946" Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 14 Jan 2008 17:30:37 -0500 Received: from waltdnes.org ([206.248.130.141]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with SMTP id UXS63237 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:30:37 -0500 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:33:34 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:33:34 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Message-ID: <20080114223334.GA25590@waltdnes.org> References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <200801111122.35025.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <1200276755.12613.36.camel@orpheus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1200276755.12613.36.camel@orpheus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 842192ea-22b4-44a6-af3a-c0969641047b X-Archives-Hash: ba4fb1adb1267a391dd8db2a1bdb9858 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 11:42:35AM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote > The official release is an indication of the life of a distribution > or package. Look at one of Keith Packard's reasons for leaving > Xfree86 (slow release cycle), or Gnome's recent push to speed their > release cycle. One, of several, reason I left Windows in 2001 was... 1995 Windows95 1996 Windows95 OSr2 1998 Windows98 1999 Windows98SE 2000 Windows ME and Windows2000 2001 WindowsXP ..and I believed MS when they said Vista was "real soon now". I don't use linux to install linux, I use linux as a tool to do email, spreadsheets, web surfing, etc. And I've got nothing on businesses. They don't want their high-paid admins constantly spending their time installing "the latest and greatest". Businesses want to "set it and forget it". A few data points... in the leadup to Y2K, there were a lot of mainframe/mini programs replaced that had been running unmodified for 10 or 20 years http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/12/missing_novell_server_discovered_after/ tells about a university where a wall was built that happened to imprison a server. It kept happily chugging away, and it wasn't until 4 years later, during an audit, that it was finally tracked down, by following the network cabling one of Redhat's selling points with Redhat Enterprise Linux is the promise of a slower release cycle. Timely security patches, yes. But OS version du jour, NO. -- Walter Dnes I'm not repeating myself I'm an X Window user... I'm an ex-Windows-user -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list