From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:02:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801131702.27866.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4789FA54.8010407@smash-net.org>
On Sunday 13 January 2008, Norman Rieß wrote:
> I have installed Gentoo in many ways, the old UniversalCD, the
> LiveCD, others Distros LiveCD's, from a working Gentooinstallation to
> a usb-connected drive which was transferred to boot in a old laptop
> and so on. But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing.
> So your statement "The users around here pushing the idea to have an
> install CD just do not get it, and are probably *not*able* to think
> out the box." is clearly not bulletproof.
You miss my point.
The thread is about users insisting that Gentoo must have an installer
because "how else would one install Gentoo?" which is patently not
true.
My comment was to highlight that people who don't see the truth of that
probably can't think out the box. I didn't pull this comment out my ass
either, it's based on several hundred observations of me personally, in
face-to-face situations, explaining to people how a typical Linux
install process works and observing how many get it and how many don't.
Please don't respond to my posts in isolation, treating them as 10
second sound bites. They are in a thread, and part of a larger context.
If you want a Gentoo installer then by all means go ahead and make one.
Or you can pay someone to make one for you. That is how FLOSS works
after all.
But is not justifiable to make the creation of such an installer a
top-priority for Gentoo, as such a thing ALREADY EXISTS. It just
doesn't have a Gentoo "G" logo on it.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-11 8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 8:58 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11 9:12 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 9:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 2:12 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11 9:35 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24 ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:38 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:50 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 10:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18 ` Dale
2008-01-12 0:16 ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16 ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33 ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59 ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26 ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17 7:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 9:09 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17 7:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 8:44 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18 7:36 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17 7:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59 ` James
2008-01-12 20:04 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17 7:27 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 9:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 0:36 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 8:39 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 2:29 ` b.n.
2008-01-12 2:27 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-12 11:50 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20 ` Eric Martin
2008-01-15 19:48 ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-12 20:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15 ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17 7:19 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 8:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17 9:14 ` Dale
2008-01-18 7:41 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18 7:43 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 8:25 ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12 ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06 ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20 8:38 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38 ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18 ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13 8:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32 ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35 ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 21:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-14 0:19 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53 ` Galevsky
2008-01-17 7:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2008-01-13 15:41 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14 5:16 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52 ` James
2008-01-12 21:29 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 8:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:08 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47 ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:06 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46 ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14 0:27 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 7:22 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 9:39 ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24 ` Neil Bothwick
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