From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDzMs-0007dh-6f for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:43:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E02AEE090F; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE7CE083A for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1677241fga.14 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:42:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=JcN7Q4ZXU7udFutPMBcsfeRekVWnJ06A0SmTv1agQBY=; b=nfMWGUDAW8k/U9KSMwCYBvlBpcuSgc9q6+mSBcM2Y0yr/z+y8RyeHLn8jJxQgqrDJ1MXPwGSr9oZonQqlaZmJl996KU3WZyymiTiD+q07zfRlyPPzKrywX4HuPpHK+KT8LDWvCdc9gE139P3JczyR+CKCbuLoJuZJW3CaJpBXU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=MIpprqtwbAfrO2xUnsL4MbYC1j/Kg88Y7B8b+K83W6ZCqu1anEE6OOZ73DiS4tMgDvnmxicHKj7KydYs0dnwAviEdMek9MwPYsZbfUpjNaUbmwMOyt3qz0lluOggQaHhlIdbwkK6xA1lQ5aw3Jn2NUVPT5KjF5KTWwrN76Dgfvs= Received: by 10.78.129.16 with SMTP id b16mr5739171hud.39.1200217359440; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.194.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm7551321nfu.26.2008.01.13.01.42.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ? Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:37:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr> <200801121231.42265.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <478912A6.1030406@fire-eyes.org> In-Reply-To: <478912A6.1030406@fire-eyes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801131137.21855.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 98ab3a88-d43f-4ffb-a490-13e8fe663c06 X-Archives-Hash: 89ed61f81221e18d7fce81fe8887ea34 On Saturday 12 January 2008, fire-eyes wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Ciaran Mcreesh - I am very specifically looking at you here. > > Very strongly agree with Mr McCreesh (spelling?). While I respect his > technical abilities and contributions, I believe his horrible > attitude, clear trolling and ability to pit devs against each other, > seemingly for fun, is far more harmful. That he wasn't gotten rid of > early on is actually the biggest sign of problems in my eyes. That he > has fans and followers is another. Ciaran seems to suffer from a horrible affliction that is common amongst highly technical people: A poorly developed sense of how to deal with other people coupled with never having realised that people are not machines, do not react like machines and need to be handled differently. You maintain machines by focusing on what is wrong with them and changing that. You handle people by focusing on what they do right and reinforcing that. I used to do what Ciaran does, and I used to do it a *lot*. Lucky for me, one day someone came along with a very big stick and hammered it through my thick skull that there is a better way. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list