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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:31:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801121231.42265.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr>

On Saturday 12 January 2008, alain.didierjean@free.fr wrote:
> Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership.
> What about it ? Read
> http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html

I've kept very quiet about Gentoo politics for a long time, but Daniel's 
blog has promoted me to finally open my mouth and express my views.

Daniel is in a tricky position - he is the legal President of the 
Foundation but also has no role in the project in real life.

There is no evidence whatsoever that the Trustees as a group have ever 
done a single thing for Gentoo in three years. The fundamental 
responsibility of Trustees is to ensure that legal paperwork is 
properly filed, they did not even do this. Grant Goodyear is getting 
some things done but he's doing it as one person. Chris is in a similar 
position. But the Trustees, as a body with specific duties, simply does 
not exist in any reasonable definition of Trustees.

I used to read -dev and various council mailing lists a long time ago as 
I wanted to keep up to date with these things as a user. I unsubscribed 
because I couldn't stand the constant bickering going on there. OSS 
projects always have their laundry out in the public eye and some 
conflict is always present but Gentoo management manages to take this 
to a whole new level - from on outsider's point of view, the bickering 
is done for the sake of bickering, and it does not result in decisions 
being made or solutions found.

Ciaran Mcreesh - I am very specifically looking at you here.

The council - I'm not up to date on that aspect so can't comment.

When I read about current Gentoo politics I can't help but constantly 
think of just one word:

Stampede.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-12 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-12  9:11 [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ? alain.didierjean
2008-01-12 10:31 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2008-01-12 12:08   ` Jil Larner
2008-01-12 12:55     ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:34       ` Dale
2008-01-12 17:07         ` Richard Marzan
2008-01-12 17:22           ` Renat Golubchyk
2008-01-12 17:49             ` Hal Martin
2008-01-12 18:13             ` Richard Marzan
2008-01-12 21:17               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13 14:07                 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 14:23                   ` Naga Toro
2008-01-13 14:33                     ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 15:06                       ` Naga Toro
2008-01-13 16:31                         ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 17:37                           ` Naga Toro
2008-01-14  5:42                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 11:43                               ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 11:19                             ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-13 16:45                       ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13 22:39                         ` Dale
2008-01-14  6:54                           ` [gentoo-user] " reader
2008-01-14  7:28                             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  7:41                             ` Dale
2008-01-14  7:51                               ` Naga
2008-01-14  8:10                                 ` Dale
2008-01-14 16:18                               ` James
2008-01-14 11:16                         ` [gentoo-user] " Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-19 15:37                         ` [gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-19 19:55                           ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-16  4:58                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? »Q«
2008-01-13 14:48                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 20:03           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:16           ` [gentoo-user] " Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-13  9:10           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 17:11         ` Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-19 12:45         ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-20  0:40           ` [gentoo-user] " reader
2008-01-23 17:35             ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-23 18:48               ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-12 22:06       ` James
2008-01-13  0:03         ` Dale
2008-01-13  4:08           ` James
2008-01-13  7:56             ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-01-13  9:31               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  2:52                 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-13  9:58               ` Uwe Thiem
2008-01-13  9:29         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 19:19   ` [gentoo-user] " fire-eyes
2008-01-13  9:37     ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 10:05       ` Alan E. Davis
2008-01-14  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 10:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Uwe Thiem
2008-01-13 10:18         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  1:12   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-01-13 10:41     ` Mick
2008-01-13 14:51       ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  1:19         ` James
2008-01-14  5:35           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  6:04             ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 12:31               ` Mick
2008-01-14 10:26     ` Thufir
2008-01-14 16:51       ` James
2008-01-14 18:11         ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 18:30           ` Jil Larner
2008-01-14 19:47             ` James
2008-01-14 20:40               ` reader
2008-01-14 21:13                 ` Jil Larner
2008-01-14 21:03               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  5:22                 ` reader
2008-01-15  5:42                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  7:26                     ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-15  7:57                     ` Mick
2008-01-14 21:51               ` Jil Larner
2008-01-15  0:31               ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 19:15           ` James
2008-01-14 20:43             ` [gentoo-user] Re: License issues [was:Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 21:33               ` James
2008-01-14 22:16                 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-15 11:39                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-14 21:16             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15  1:36               ` James
2008-01-15 11:34                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-15 11:31             ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-17  6:37         ` Thufir
2008-01-19 14:55     ` [gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Enrico Weigelt
2008-01-14 10:30 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? Thufir

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