From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDN6S-0001PO-Du for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:51:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38081E08DD; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71920E08D1 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:50:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so956649mue.5 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:50:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=sk4qzWmaAtExECZwmCJ9bnP5TGOtk6KcvSwoVwCNrzo=; b=YupE1henVnAijV8sYLLMAskTmnO4oaL5hY/krSL1AhX+pOz019zgvGEd5pcqux7V06ShKxho462iYQpWuuVRgrNkOQsE63ftt5JVdsFrUqn6/B5AZRWZk1APT5QNpAL8PxaICNLZZdZbEXuYsu5d6OjXHvnTY28mHuGmf5fzJS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=e/HRxlnLJtwJ2WadpTC/vKv7Bn0Qfn9IInWq+WPVMSCF3pRLo3E1BUloJa5Tw+Rbqn2iluBsyR/NFME4hrAvXk5tG+Vet/CPrGX3k4oQ8Q2nYfoODFedTv/YyER2hkCU1eNJGQkoT/wC1j785f3OAC7eHu089BuSZ0xesj4tZSs= Received: by 10.78.173.20 with SMTP id v20mr4161300hue.12.1200070257599; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.194.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm1821547nfu.12.2008.01.11.08.50.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:45:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <20080111071549.4677caa8@osage.osagesoftware.com> <20080111140145.4ae1deea@grolsch.ajiaojr.net> In-Reply-To: <20080111140145.4ae1deea@grolsch.ajiaojr.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801111845.55425.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 5b3954b0-6d7b-46b4-a42c-1bdf351d2f03 X-Archives-Hash: 9883c43fd547e10da99e168ab3db26c5 On Friday 11 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote: > ack to the installation CD issue, undoubtably, having a nice working > installation CD for gentoo is desirable, but is it really needed? We > are here to do what we are best at. > > LiveCD creators, Knoppix, for example, are good at creating liveCDs > and keeping hardware support on those CDs up-to-date etc etc, we > should take advantage of it. > > Gentoo has a huge package repository, I'd much rather see the devs > focus on making that better, cos that's what they are good at. Reading this, I had a thought: Most of the stuff available in gentoo comes from some upstream place in the grand Free Software tradition. Considering that an installation LiveCD is really just a temporary bootable image that writes stuff to the disk (and that stuff happily turns out to be a permanent bootable image), how about we just treat Knoppix as an upstream package and add a relatively simple program to do the installation? Essentially, it will ask some questions and unpack a stage 3/4 then tell the user to go and read 'man emerge' -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list