From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBQdZ-0005Iu-VM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:13:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18072E00D4; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577A3E00AE for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so3575188fga.14 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:12:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=h+JfGCwwfEUKWByumzeqgSLUIPrVwkBnk6vK08FMdyI=; b=a6AJqmdyKWA/mCJ8feWB11mlXGCMV2KQ9x3qbDvmPEfVWVdIkgXerZ0Ly7XTQEshMoE022F+4nzw45gC9CiEKIaqbkD/MMIEZSkSzE7PNb8X+LYZTHSg2dbnO2Uw5pB4iXjhpH9YFD8WEo3cuilfyDSxJl2nf5ppO53+89WREQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=DphxT1MpMaEt6YQ1sCiKi0ISiBC+BLi53sTv0DZckMG6K5mlD19yR4crY8RCbFLU3bFs8UKbamW6pAJXII03lbT3iWcT2kL3erbzx6CEIHEiYwwFOBTN9A6ya4SlSM6qYRbJ9yExFkK4qYp2KILy7O8AozpS7BMe6NEZRaBi5QQ= Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr32892192buc.26.1199607170222; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.3? ( [41.243.198.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm27999620nfu.7.2008.01.06.00.12.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:08:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <87r6gwxnpu.fsf@newsguy.com> <200801052145.19438.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <87fxxb275f.fsf@newsguy.com> In-Reply-To: <87fxxb275f.fsf@newsguy.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801061008.25840.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 9db8b832-b6a5-4895-9c0b-d253fb2e98ea X-Archives-Hash: 8e1d9a771c14105f734ed6b89132ebc7 On Sunday 06 January 2008, reader@newsguy.com wrote: > People in this thread speak of 2 and 3 boots and editing in between > in the same message where `5 minutes' is mentioned. =A0That doesn't > wash. You're way past that time frame. =A0But still not in the guiness > book realm I guess... hehe. I guess the English phrase '5 minutes' is a symlink to another longer=20 phrase: 'A reasonably short period of time that doesn't cause me=20 massive amounts of inconvenience'. I have a spare 2.6.23-gentoo source=20 tree here with everything enabled. With no changes to the config a=20 second 'make' still takes 2m29.414s 2 to 3 boots with a new kernel version, especially one where sub-systems=20 like libata got moved around, sounds perfectly reasonable. > > > Removing all these unused drivers is the single largest improvement > > in reducing kernel size. The general rule with drivers is that if > > you are familiar with YOUR hardware and you've never heard of > > something in the config then you don't have it and don't need it > > :-) > > Just to know more on this... Is there really any reason to worry > about kernel size... I mean in most cases with a standard desktop > install? By "kernel size" I actually meant disk space used, including it's=20 modules. Seeing as almost every other mainstream distro gives you a full-featured=20 kernel with all modules included and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ weighs in=20 at around 400M, I'd say no, it's not worth worrying about. Some people do worry about it, and that's cool for them. Some folk do=20 lots of kernel testing, if they have 10 kernel versions on disk then it=20 does become a factor. The beauty of gentoo is that if you don't feel=20 like caring, you don't have to. alan =2D-=20 Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list