[gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge.  I don't know why.
The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4.  At least if
I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
I don't have anything in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS (it's not defined).
In all of /etc/portage there are 4 references to "x86", and they're in
package.keywords for particular package releases whose features I needed.

So why am I emerging these things?

++ kevin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Dale]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge.  I don't know why.
> The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4.  At
> least if I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
> I don't have anything in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS (it's not defined).
> In all of /etc/portage there are 4 references to "x86", and they're in
> package.keywords for particular package releases whose features I needed.
>
> So why am I emerging these things?
>
> ++ kevin
>
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> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Posting emerge --info may help.

Dale

:-)   :-) 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Sven Köhler]

> Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge.  I don't know why.
> The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4.  At least if
> I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
> I don't have anything in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS (it's not defined).
> In all of /etc/portage there are 4 references to "x86", and they're in
> package.keywords for particular package releases whose features I needed.
> 
> So why am I emerging these things?

Take a look here:
http://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-cdr/k3b

Or here:
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-cdr/k3b


k3b-1.0.4 is marked stable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 05 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge.  I don't know why.
> The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4.  At
> least if I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.

[I] app-cdr/k3b
     Available versions:  0.12.17 (~)1.0 (~)1.0.1 (~)1.0.1-r1 (~)1.0.2 
(~)1.0.3 1.0.4

It's stable according to my --sync done 10 minutes ago. Perhaps you are 
reading eix output wrongly, post your current output and let's have a 
look

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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I see that it's now stable, and I'm going to let the emerge go forward.
However, I scrolled back my terminal to when I sent that message, and here's
what eix gave me then (primarily the "~" in front of 1.0.4.  Could this be
an asychrony with the eix database?

treat portage # eix k3b
[I] app-cdr/k3b
     Available versions:  0.12.17 ~1.0 ~1.0.1 ~1.0.1-r1 ~1.0.2 ~1.0.3 ~1.0.4
{alsa arts css debug dvdr dvdread elibc_FreeBSD emovix encode ffmpeg flac
hal kde linguas_af linguas_ar linguas_bg linguas_bn linguas_br linguas_bs
linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_cy linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el
linguas_en_GB linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fa linguas_fi
linguas_fr linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_he linguas_hi linguas_hu linguas_is
linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ka linguas_km linguas_lt linguas_mk linguas_ms
linguas_nb linguas_nds linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_pa linguas_pl
linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro linguas_ru linguas_rw linguas_se
linguas_sk linguas_sl linguas_sr linguas_sr@Latn linguas_sv linguas_ta
linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_uz linguas_zh_CN linguas_zh_TW mp3 musepack
musicbrainz sndfile vcd vorbis xinerama}
     Installed versions:  0.12.17(13:10:41 10/22/07)(alsa arts dvdr encode
hal kde linguas_de linguas_es linguas_fr linguas_pl mp3 vorbis -css -debug
-elibc_FreeBSD -ffmpeg -flac -linguas_af -linguas_bg -linguas_bn -linguas_br
-linguas_bs -linguas_ca -linguas_cs -linguas_cy -linguas_da -linguas_el
-linguas_en_GB -linguas_et -linguas_eu -linguas_fi -linguas_ga -linguas_he
-linguas_hi -linguas_hu -linguas_is -linguas_it -linguas_ja -linguas_km
-linguas_lt -linguas_mk -linguas_ms -linguas_nb -linguas_nds -linguas_nl
-linguas_nn -linguas_pa -linguas_pt -linguas_pt_BR -linguas_ro -linguas_ru
-linguas_se -linguas_sl -linguas_sr -linguas_sr@Latn -linguas_sv -linguas_ta
-linguas_tr -linguas_uk -linguas_zh_CN -linguas_zh_TW -musepack -musicbrainz
-sndfile -vcd -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.k3b.org/
     Description:         K3b, KDE CD Writing Software




On 1/5/08, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 05 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge. I don't know why.
> > The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4. At
> > least if I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
>
> [I] app-cdr/k3b
>      Available versions:  0.12.17 (~)1.0 (~)1.0.1 (~)1.0.1-r1 (~)1.0.2
> (~)1.0.3 1.0.4
>
> It's stable according to my --sync done 10 minutes ago. Perhaps you are
> reading eix output wrongly, post your current output and let's have a
> look
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 07 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I see that it's now stable, and I'm going to let the emerge go
> forward. However, I scrolled back my terminal to when I sent that
> message, and here's what eix gave me then (primarily the "~" in front
> of 1.0.4.  Could this be an asychrony with the eix database?

Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync instead 
of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice :-)


>
> treat portage # eix k3b
> [I] app-cdr/k3b
>      Available versions:  0.12.17 ~1.0 ~1.0.1 ~1.0.1-r1 ~1.0.2 ~1.0.3
> ~1.0.4 {alsa arts css debug dvdr dvdread elibc_FreeBSD emovix encode
> ffmpeg flac hal kde linguas_af linguas_ar linguas_bg linguas_bn
> linguas_br linguas_bs linguas_ca linguas_cs linguas_cy linguas_da
> linguas_de linguas_el linguas_en_GB linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu
> linguas_fa linguas_fi linguas_fr linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_he
> linguas_hi linguas_hu linguas_is linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_ka
> linguas_km linguas_lt linguas_mk linguas_ms linguas_nb linguas_nds
> linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_pa linguas_pl linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR
> linguas_ro linguas_ru linguas_rw linguas_se linguas_sk linguas_sl
> linguas_sr linguas_sr@Latn linguas_sv linguas_ta linguas_tr
> linguas_uk linguas_uz linguas_zh_CN linguas_zh_TW mp3 musepack
> musicbrainz sndfile vcd vorbis xinerama}
>      Installed versions:  0.12.17(13:10:41 10/22/07)(alsa arts dvdr
> encode hal kde linguas_de linguas_es linguas_fr linguas_pl mp3 vorbis
> -css -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -ffmpeg -flac -linguas_af -linguas_bg
> -linguas_bn -linguas_br -linguas_bs -linguas_ca -linguas_cs
> -linguas_cy -linguas_da -linguas_el -linguas_en_GB -linguas_et
> -linguas_eu -linguas_fi -linguas_ga -linguas_he -linguas_hi
> -linguas_hu -linguas_is -linguas_it -linguas_ja -linguas_km
> -linguas_lt -linguas_mk -linguas_ms -linguas_nb -linguas_nds
> -linguas_nl -linguas_nn -linguas_pa -linguas_pt -linguas_pt_BR
> -linguas_ro -linguas_ru -linguas_se -linguas_sl -linguas_sr
> -linguas_sr@Latn -linguas_sv -linguas_ta -linguas_tr -linguas_uk
> -linguas_zh_CN -linguas_zh_TW -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd
> -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.k3b.org/
>      Description:         K3b, KDE CD Writing Software
>
> On 1/5/08, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > > Suddenly I noticed I'm on the bleeding edge. I don't know why.
> > > The latest: emerge -aDvu world is emerging unstable k3b-1.0.4. At
> > > least if I'm reading the output of eix correctly, it's unstable.
> >
> > [I] app-cdr/k3b
> >      Available versions:  0.12.17 (~)1.0 (~)1.0.1 (~)1.0.1-r1
> > (~)1.0.2 (~)1.0.3 1.0.4
> >
> > It's stable according to my --sync done 10 minutes ago. Perhaps you
> > are reading eix output wrongly, post your current output and let's
> > have a look
> >
> > --
> > Alan McKinnon
> > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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On 1/7/08, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Monday 07 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > I see that it's now stable, and I'm going to let the emerge go
> > forward. However, I scrolled back my terminal to when I sent that
> > message, and here's what eix gave me then (primarily the "~" in front
> > of 1.0.4.  Could this be an asychrony with the eix database?
>
> Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync instead
> of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice :-)


I would not have thought so because it's all done in cron jobs thrice per
week, giving me reports via email.

However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two separate
jobs scheduled an hour apart.  It is vaguely conceivable that they got out
of step somehow.  I've unified them, and hope things go better now.

++ kevin



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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync
> instead of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice
> :-)
>
> I would not have thought so because it's all done in cron jobs thrice
> per week, giving me reports via email.
>
> However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
> separate jobs scheduled an hour apart.  It is vaguely conceivable
> that they got out of step somehow.  I've unified them, and hope
> things go better now.

Yeah, that's probably it then. Doing an emerge at randomly selected 
times will cause i in about 60 or so to fall in that hour window :-)

Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync 
(which does both in sequence)?

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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On Jan 8, 2008 7:48 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > Hmm, sounds reasonable. Perhaps you mistakenly ran emerge --sync
> > instead of eix-sync that one time? I've done it myself once or thrice
> > :-)
> >
> > I would not have thought so because it's all done in cron jobs thrice
> > per week, giving me reports via email.
> >
> > However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
> > separate jobs scheduled an hour apart. It is vaguely conceivable
> > that they got out of step somehow. I've unified them, and hope
> > things go better now.
>
> Yeah, that's probably it then. Doing an emerge at randomly selected
> times will cause i in about 60 or so to fall in that hour window :-)
>
> Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync
> (which does both in sequence)?
>
> alan
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>

Originally, because the output was hard to read I think.  And I figured that
starting them an hour apart would ensure sequence anyway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 08 January 2008 23:30:51 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > > However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
> > > separate jobs scheduled an hour apart. It is vaguely conceivable
> > > that they got out of step somehow. I've unified them, and hope
> > > things go better now.
[...]
> > Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync
> > (which does both in sequence)?
>
> Originally, because the output was hard to read I think.  And I figured
> that starting them an hour apart would ensure sequence anyway.

Surely you ran update-eix and possibly diff-eix rather than eix-sync then? 
Running eix-sync and emerge --sync would mean syncing twice a day (for no 
good reason)...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suddenly emerging unstable packages = why?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

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On 1/8/08, Bo Ørsted Andresen <bo.andresen@zlin.dk> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 08 January 2008 23:30:51 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > > > However, it is true that emerge sync and eix-update were in two
> > > > separate jobs scheduled an hour apart. It is vaguely conceivable
> > > > that they got out of step somehow. I've unified them, and hope
> > > > things go better now.
> [...]
> > > Any particular reason you run two separate jobs and not just eix-sync
> > > (which does both in sequence)?
> >
> > Originally, because the output was hard to read I think.  And I figured
> > that starting them an hour apart would ensure sequence anyway.
>
> Surely you ran update-eix and possibly diff-eix rather than eix-sync then?
> Running eix-sync and emerge --sync would mean syncing twice a day (for no
> good reason)...
>
> --
> Bo Andresen


Indeed.  I run update-eix, but I don't do it every day.   The entire package
runs three times per week, and I use the emails from it to decide whether or
when to emerge world.  I keep pretty current, but don't see the point in
daily updates.

++ kevin



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