[gentoo-user] The setup program seems to have failed.

[gentoo-user] The setup program seems to have failed.

[Miernik]

Hello everyone. I use Debian GNU/Linux since ten years, on 32-bit Intel
machines. And now I bought a new computer, my first 64-bit machine. Its
a Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 mobo, with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ CPU, so I
thought that on such powerful beast, Gentoo will be a good choice,
things will compile fast enough. I am stuck with a "The setup program
seems to have failed." error during installation, so I'll tell you
exactly what I dit.

OK, so what I did was:
wget http://bouncer.gentoo.org/fetch/gentoo-2007.0-livecd/amd64/

Then, this machine doesn't have, nor will ever have any hard drives, nor
CD/DVD/any-moving-media drives, the only things that I want to ever
attach to it are USB flash pendrives and the Ethernet cable. So I bought
one 1 GB USB pendrive, and two 2 GB USB pendrives to play with, and with
the 1 GB pendrive I followed these intructions:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
and that worked well, I have this bootable USB stick with Gentoo image
now. After that boots and I get the Gnome desktop, I switch to text
console, I insert one of the 2 GB pendrives into another USB slot, and
the screen tells me to type "installer", so I do it.

I choose "standard" and "Internet enabled" and then he asks me "Which
drive would you like to partition?" and shows me /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
to choose from, where /dev/sda is my 1 GB boot stick, and /dev/sdb is my
empty 2 GB stick. So I choose /dev/sdb, and then the program quits
printing as its last words this not-very-useful message:

"The setup program seems to have failed."

So I am stuck here, what to do?

P.S. This machine has 2 GB RAM, and I plan to buy another 2 GB or 4 GB
more, and then install Gentoo in such a way that the USB pendrive would
only be needed during bootup, i.e. that a compressed ramfs image would
be on the stick, and once it extracts into initramfs or something like
that, it could be removed, and whole system will run from RAM, ramfs,
XiP (execute in place) - that's what I want to do. But right now I can't
even do a basic install, so some help would be great.

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Re: [gentoo-user] The setup program seems to have failed.

[Rumen Yotov]

On (08/11/07 05:23) Miernik wrote:
> Hello everyone. I use Debian GNU/Linux since ten years, on 32-bit Intel
> machines. And now I bought a new computer, my first 64-bit machine. Its
> a Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 mobo, with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ CPU, so I
> thought that on such powerful beast, Gentoo will be a good choice,
> things will compile fast enough. I am stuck with a "The setup program
> seems to have failed." error during installation, so I'll tell you
> exactly what I dit.
> 
> OK, so what I did was:
> wget http://bouncer.gentoo.org/fetch/gentoo-2007.0-livecd/amd64/
> 
> Then, this machine doesn't have, nor will ever have any hard drives, nor
> CD/DVD/any-moving-media drives, the only things that I want to ever
> attach to it are USB flash pendrives and the Ethernet cable. So I bought
> one 1 GB USB pendrive, and two 2 GB USB pendrives to play with, and with
> the 1 GB pendrive I followed these intructions:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml
> and that worked well, I have this bootable USB stick with Gentoo image
> now. After that boots and I get the Gnome desktop, I switch to text
> console, I insert one of the 2 GB pendrives into another USB slot, and
> the screen tells me to type "installer", so I do it.
> 
> I choose "standard" and "Internet enabled" and then he asks me "Which
> drive would you like to partition?" and shows me /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
> to choose from, where /dev/sda is my 1 GB boot stick, and /dev/sdb is my
> empty 2 GB stick. So I choose /dev/sdb, and then the program quits
> printing as its last words this not-very-useful message:
> 
> "The setup program seems to have failed."
> 
> So I am stuck here, what to do?
> 
> P.S. This machine has 2 GB RAM, and I plan to buy another 2 GB or 4 GB
> more, and then install Gentoo in such a way that the USB pendrive would
> only be needed during bootup, i.e. that a compressed ramfs image would
> be on the stick, and once it extracts into initramfs or something like
> that, it could be removed, and whole system will run from RAM, ramfs,
> XiP (execute in place) - that's what I want to do. But right now I can't
> even do a basic install, so some help would be great.
> 
> -- 
> Miernik
> http://miernik.name/
> 
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>
Hi,

The graphical installer is known to fail sometimes (not always :-)
Many people prefer the (old) install method - using a terminal.
i've been following (svn) the quickstart script, meant to do a console install.
Don't have a link but if anyone is interested will get it (IIRC it's in
graphical-installed dev personal place).
Would be interested on any experience about it's usability.
HTH. Rumen
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[gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Miernik]

Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:
> The graphical installer is known to fail sometimes (not always :-)
> Many people prefer the (old) install method - using a terminal.

I was not using a graphical installer, I went to a terminal (text
console), and typed "installer", is that what I am supposed to do?  I
have no idea what is "old" and what is "new" install method, as this is
the first time ever I try to install Gentoo, so everyting is new for me,
just tell me what I should do that should "just work" most probably.

> i've been following (svn) the quickstart script, meant to do a console
> install. Don't have a link but if anyone is interested will get it
> (IIRC it's in graphical-installed dev personal place).  Would be
> interested on any experience about it's usability.  HTH. Rumen

Does Gentoo have a "normal" install method, that should work usually,
and if any, what is it? I just did what the booted image told me to,
hoping it was something I was supposed to do. This distro is new for me,
I installed Debian maybe a hundred times, so thats what I am acustomed
to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Rumen Yotov]

Hi,
On (08/11/07 07:02) Miernik wrote:
> Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:
> > The graphical installer is known to fail sometimes (not always :-)
> > Many people prefer the (old) install method - using a terminal.
> 
> I was not using a graphical installer, I went to a terminal (text
> console), and typed "installer", is that what I am supposed to do?  I
> have no idea what is "old" and what is "new" install method, as this is
> the first time ever I try to install Gentoo, so everyting is new for me,
> just tell me what I should do that should "just work" most probably.
> 
The 'old' install method meant to use just no-X terminal from a LiveCD.
Then you just follow the handbook (installation) and you're done.
Could be done for half an hour/45 min/,but an hour or two will suffice for most users.
Usually the kernel config&compilation takes most of the time.
Check the install docs for 2005.X or the quickinstall guide IIRC.
> > i've been following (svn) the quickstart script, meant to do a console
> > install. Don't have a link but if anyone is interested will get it
> > (IIRC it's in graphical-installed dev personal place).  Would be
> > interested on any experience about it's usability.  HTH. Rumen
> 
> Does Gentoo have a "normal" install method, that should work usually,
> and if any, what is it? I just did what the booted image told me to,
> hoping it was something I was supposed to do. This distro is new for me,
> I installed Debian maybe a hundred times, so thats what I am acustomed
> to.
> 
>From 2006.0 IIRC a 'new' install method came to life (a graphical one).
Seems you using it, the current documentation mostly covers the new install
method - not very sure here.
You could also use the Gnome from the LiveCD, open a root terminal and
do the install from it (writing commands).
Do ask if you have any questions/problems.
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> 
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> 
HTH. Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] The setup program seems to have failed.

[Dan Farrell]

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:31:33 +0200
Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The graphical installer is known to fail sometimes (not always :-)
> Many people prefer the (old) install method - using a terminal.

++.  

Miernik, 

I _highly_ recommend using a the manual install method from the gentoo
handbook.  It's valuable for many reasons, not the least of which being
its flexibility.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Dan Farrell]

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:22:58 +0200
Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:

> The 'old' install method meant to use just no-X terminal from a
> LiveCD. Then you just follow the handbook (installation) and you're
> done. Could be done for half an hour/45 min/,but an hour or two will
> suffice for most users. Usually the kernel config&compilation takes
> most of the time. Check the install docs for 2005.X or the
> quickinstall guide IIRC.

New users should set aside an afternoon, if they don't to much
command-line work.  

An hour or two is a good install speed for me, and I've done it dozens
of times.  
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[gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Miernik]

Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
> I _highly_ recommend using a the manual install method from the gentoo
> handbook.  It's valuable for many reasons, not the least of which
> being its flexibility.

OK, now I know, I've done it with the manual install, and I like it. But
when the liveCD booted and told me to run "installer" that was
misleading. It should say something like "You can make a manual install
now using Gentoo handbook, or you may try an automated installer by
running "installer" now, but beware its experimental, and doesn't always
work". Such message on the liveCD welcome screen, would have saved me
quite some time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Mick]

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On Monday 12 November 2007, Miernik wrote:
> Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
> > I _highly_ recommend using a the manual install method from the gentoo
> > handbook.  It's valuable for many reasons, not the least of which
> > being its flexibility.
>
> OK, now I know, I've done it with the manual install, and I like it. But
> when the liveCD booted and told me to run "installer" that was
> misleading. It should say something like "You can make a manual install
> now using Gentoo handbook, or you may try an automated installer by
> running "installer" now, but beware its experimental, and doesn't always
> work". Such message on the liveCD welcome screen, would have saved me
> quite some time.

That's why I made a comment on having a really slick GUI installer, or better 
stick with the Gentoo Handbook.

Hey, welcome to Gentoo!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The setup program seems to have failed.

[Dan Farrell]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:42:58 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> It should say something like "You can make a manual install
> > now using Gentoo handbook, or you may try an automated installer by
> > running "installer" now, but beware its experimental, and doesn't
> > always work". Such message on the liveCD welcome screen, would have
> > saved me quite some time.  

Yeah, putting it right on the desktop is a pretty effective way of
tacitly informing users that it's ready to use...
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