[gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Alexander Skwar]

Hello.

When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics "card".
I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

Thanks,

Alexander Skwar

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Naga]

On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:36:19 Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hello.
>
> When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
> some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics "card".
> I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.
>
> Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version

This version also fixes bug 194026.

> of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).
>
> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

Works fine for me here. The blocker is also removed since NVidia states that 
the new version is compatible with xorg 1.4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Steve Dommett]

On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Hello.
>
> When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
> some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics "card".
> I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.
>
> Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
> of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).
>
> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexander Skwar

I run a ~x86 system on which I had quite some troubles with 1.4.0 when I tried 
it shortly after the new nVidia drivers shipped.  I haven't tried 1.4.0-r1 
yet.

I'm sure the problems I was seeing were unrelated to the nVidia driver.  I had 
symptoms very similar to this guy: 
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user-de/msg_38486.xml

To revert to a working system (on ~x86) I added the following to 
packages.mask:
>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.9
~x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3
>=x11-proto/renderproto-0.9.3
~x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4
~x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.2

I wish you luck.
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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Александър Л. Димитров]

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On 11:36 Tue 02 Oct, Alexander Skwar wrote
> Hello.
> 
> When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite
> some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics "card".
> I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being.

Yeah, that was due to an ABI change in the new X.org version. The binary NVidia
drivers had to be recompiled - by NVidia, unfortunately.

> Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
> of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

The new X.org server versions still block old releases of the NVidia drivers for
the same reason, however, as NVidia have updated their drivers to match the new
X.org ABI, it _should_ be safe to upgrade now (but keep in mind that you have to
upgrade both packages).

My Laptop's doing fine with the new X.org version and NVidia drivers. Afaik, the
only problem was the ABI - but there are some guys at nvnews that seem to not be
content with the new driver version. Most of them seem to use graphical effects
though.

As every single one of NVidia's releases, this one seems to have its own
problems... but for me it's very sable.

Aleks

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Randy Barlow]

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?

On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
nv driver?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Jesús Guerrero]

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:17:46 -0400
Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> wrote:

> Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?
> 
> On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
> cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
> going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
> nv driver?
> 
As far as I know, they update the legacy branches to support xorg-7.3
(xorg-server 1.4). So, 71.86.01 should be ok for your video card and
recent Xorg releases.

I can't confirm it myself, though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:36:19 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version
> of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19).

100.14.19 had a serious bug with Xv output, in that it doesn't work. this
isn't a major problem with the likes of mplayer where you can change
the output driver, but MythTV won't show anything with this driver.

> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with
> nvidia-drivers?

I've been using 100.14.11 with xorg-server-1.4 with no problems. You have
to edit the nvidia-drivers ebuild to stop is wanting an earlier
xorg-server and add -ignoreABI to your X startup command.


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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Harley Peters]

Randy Barlow wrote:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers?
> 
> On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old video
> cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of nvidia-drivers.  Am I
> going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will doing so require me to use the
> nv driver?
> 

Use at your own risk :)

For me the nvidia 100.14.19 driver causes constant lockups. So does the
100.14.11 driver for that matter.
I had to "down grade" back to the 100.14.09 driver which is stable for me.

Harley

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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[purple]

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On 10/3/07, Harley Peters <harley@thepetersclan.net> wrote:
>
> > Alexander Skwar wrote:
> >> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with
> nvidia-drivers?


 there's really _no need_ for you to star using new X at this time because
of its oftenly reported instabilty, lockups and crashes with any nvidia
driver, make your self mature and stop thinking so bleeding edge way..
X 7.2 runs perfectly at the moment so why to switch from something that
works to something new and unstable yet just for sake being "up 2 date"..
wait some time, it'll all going to be ok soon, so be patient and clever :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[Harley Peters]

purple wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/3/07, *Harley Peters* <harley@thepetersclan.net
> <mailto:harley@thepetersclan.net>> wrote:
> 
>     > Alexander Skwar wrote:
>     >> Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with
>     nvidia-drivers?
> 
> 
>  there's really _no need_ for you to star using new X at this time
> because of its oftenly reported instabilty, lockups and crashes with any
> nvidia driver, make your self mature and stop thinking so bleeding edge
> way..
> X 7.2 runs perfectly at the moment so why to switch from something that
> works to something new and unstable yet just for sake being "up 2 date"..
> wait some time, it'll all going to be ok soon, so be patient and clever :)
> 
> 
> -- 
> purple..

I think it's important to point out that if nobody ever ran the testing
versions they would never become stable. You just need to be prepared to
crash and burn once in a while. So backup!!!!

Harley

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[gentoo-user] Re: X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

[»Q«]

Jesús Guerrero <i92guboj@terra.es> wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:17:46 -0400
> Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> wrote:
> 
> > Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > > Does anyone know, if it's now "safe" to use xorg 1.4 with
> > > nvidia-drivers?
> > 
> > On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old
> > video cards for which I need to use version 1.0.7185 of
> > nvidia-drivers.  Am I going to be able to use xorg 1.4, or will
> > doing so require me to use the nv driver?
> > 
> As far as I know, they update the legacy branches to support xorg-7.3
> (xorg-server 1.4). So, 71.86.01 should be ok for your video card and
> recent Xorg releases.
> 
> I can't confirm it myself, though.

AFAIK, they haven't been updated for xorg-7.3, but I don't follow the
legacy drivers.  But cardoe says that nVidia says the drivers do work
with xorg-7.3 with a little tweaking (including turning off the
composite extension).

<http://blog.cardoe.com/archives/2007/09/18/new-nvidia-drivers/> 

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