From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ib24V-00062L-Do for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:43:03 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l8RMWcX6004732; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:32:38 GMT Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2.hushmail.com [65.39.178.134]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l8RMQ6jl027194 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:26:06 GMT Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6091617031 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:22:01 -0500 From: forgottenwizard To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal Gentoo installation Message-ID: <20070927222201.GA16286@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <46FBEB8D.5030601@gmail.com> <20070927195745.GB15749@localhost> <46FC1AD4.5030700@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46FC1AD4.5030700@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 745876a5-22ed-4c33-83ed-155db78202fb X-Archives-Hash: f691582e0debfdc171bdbd32094178f8 On 23:04 Thu 27 Sep , Petar Dimitrijevic wrote: > forgottenwizard wrote: >> On 19:42 Thu 27 Sep , Petar Dimitrijevic wrote: >> >>> Hi ppl, >>> >>> My basic idea is to have chroot-ed environment which will be the full >>> system and then to install separate system with only minimal stuff >>> (without gcc, portage, ...). When I need to update the minimal system I >>> will first update the chrooted one and the emerge the updates onto the >>> new one. >>> >> >> What it sounds like you want is an LFS system. Look at the -B option for >> emerge. That may have some of what you are looking for. >> >> > Hm I browsed through emerge man page but I'm unable to find the -B option. > Is this maybe --build option ? Yeah. Just something to build the binaries should work. >>> I wanted to ask if somebody has done something like this, is something >>> like this possible and are there any wiki's or howto's on this topic. >>> I've tried searching through the handbook and google-ing but had no luck. >>> >> >> I thought about doing this once before, but what is going to make the >> diffrence is how minimal you want the system. Are we talking a kernel + >> [ba|z]sh + coreutils or are we talking a tiny Apache server? >> > Well I want to have couple of variations: > 1. Apache, php, python, > 2. Xorg, python, wxwindows > > So I guess they wouldn't be too small. My expectations are that the fs size > would be <= 256 MB to 400 MB. My target is VIA C3 Nemiah board with 128MB > RAM and 512MB CF Card. Nice. Apache I know you could fit into that without a problem, and X should be able to handle that little >> If you want the absolute minimal, then I would look some into LFS since >> Gentoo wants to install so much by default (gcc, bash, coreutils, wget, >> ect). >> >> > I thought about checking out LFS but Gentoo seemed simpler to try. Also > because of portage the system is easier to upgrade. But if I can't get what > I need I guess I'll try LFS. Look up ALFS (Automated Linuc From Scratch). It's a basic system, but if you want something fairly minimal, I'd suggest looking at Portage and the ebuilds you like and see if you couldn't script yourself a small package manager just using wget and maybe doing the compiling by hand (or just running ./configure && make && make install, if you don't want to do anything to minimize the installed packages). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list