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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: star
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:22:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709261522.36566.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1210223.JpbI81628Y@kn.gn.rtr.message-center.info>

On Mittwoch, 26. September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:34:41 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> >> What does this have to do with GNU tar and it adding superflous
> >> options? Quite a lot. -j et.al. are non-standard options. If a
> >> (badly written) script relies on the presence of -j, this script
> >> won't work with a POSIX compliant tar
> >
> > The script is only badly written if it is supposed to be POSIX
> > compliant. Additional features can enhance a program
>
> Given that we're talking about use of non-standard options present
> only in GNU tar vs. easily accessible standard compliant ways
> of solving the same problem: No, a script is badly written, if it
> makes use of non-standard options.

a script that is not supposed to be portable to a POSIX-only system, can be 
written in any way the host system supports. So it is not 'broken' nor 'badly 
written'. Please calm down. Ok?

>
> > and make scripts
> > using it more readable/efficient/compact, providing the environment does
> > not require POSIX-compliance. e.g. portage can use tar-specific
> > enhancements if tar is in system on all profiles.
>
> Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to
> POSIX. Another windmill to fight against.
>

no.

Please stop that nonesense, ok? Gentoo scripts are gentoo scripts. Not AIX, 
Solaris or HP-UX scripts (systems who are very arcane in a lot of aspects). 
So gentoo scripts don't need to be portable, so they don't need to be POSIX 
compliant. And since gentoo is a linux distribution and almost all linux 
distributions use the gnu-userland, gnu-compatibility is more than enough for 
portability to other linux distributions.

And some last questions: if POSIX is so great, why is there stuff 
like 'SUS', 'LSB', and why has POSIX many different versions?


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-22 16:03 [gentoo-user] star Florian Philipp
2007-09-22 17:23 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-09-22 18:14   ` Florian Philipp
2007-09-22 20:00     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-09-24  8:30       ` [gentoo-user] star Alexander Skwar
2007-09-24 17:58         ` Stroller
2007-09-25  6:22           ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-25 13:24             ` b.n.
2007-09-25 13:34               ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-25 14:27                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-26  7:01                   ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-26  7:18                     ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-26  8:14                       ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-26  8:35                         ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-26  8:45                           ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-26  8:59                             ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-26  9:49                               ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-09-26 10:08                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-26 11:07                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-26 13:22                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2007-09-24  8:27     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-24 16:38       ` Florian Philipp
2007-09-25  6:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-25 16:37           ` Florian Philipp
2007-09-25 20:58       ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schreckenbauer
2007-09-25 22:26         ` b.n.
2007-09-26  9:45           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2007-09-26 17:44             ` b.n.
2007-09-26 17:46               ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-24  8:24 ` Alexander Skwar
2007-09-25 20:55 ` [gentoo-user] star Michael Schreckenbauer

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