[gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
the command line?

   OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
not the PC's sound card:

mark@dragonfly ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
                      Intel ICH5 with ALC655 at 0xfa081000, irq 21
 1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC
                      Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio CODEC
 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full s
mark@dragonfly ~ $

   When I thought of this possibility I turned on the HT receiver,
switched to the correct input and low and behold DVD audio was
playing. Didn't test to see if it's 5.1. The HT receiver is hooked to
the USB device which seems to be marked as 'default'. However hardware
setup hasn't changed and earlier versions of xine went to the internal
card so something has changed.

   I don't see anything in /etc/modules.d/alsa that defines the second
card as default. Does anyone know how Alsa does that?

   It's possible that Alsa getting too cleaver by half and somehow
'deciding' that the USB interface is more suited to doing 5.1 than the
internal card. If it is then shame on it I say. ;-)

   Two potential solutions come to mind:

1) At the xine command line tell it which card to use. I'm looking
through the xine --help listing but heck if I see how to do that.

2) Somehow tell also to make card 0 default and see if that fixes the problem.

   Anyway, so the problem is partially solved. I can go the xine-users
list and see if anyone there has a quick fix for this. At least it's
starting to make some sense.

   Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Cheers,
Mark

# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v
1.4 2004/11/16 01:31:22 eradicator Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0

alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=1

##  OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=2
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Danilo Marcelo]

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I had the same problem and resolved installing k3b. I think this error
occurs because missing plugins. Try to emerge k3b but check flags before.

2007/9/18, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>   Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
> audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
> the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
> don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
> the command line?
>
>   OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> not the PC's sound card:
>
> mark@dragonfly ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
>                      Intel ICH5 with ALC655 at 0xfa081000, irq 21
> 1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC
>                      Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio CODEC
> at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full s
> mark@dragonfly ~ $
>
>   When I thought of this possibility I turned on the HT receiver,
> switched to the correct input and low and behold DVD audio was
> playing. Didn't test to see if it's 5.1. The HT receiver is hooked to
> the USB device which seems to be marked as 'default'. However hardware
> setup hasn't changed and earlier versions of xine went to the internal
> card so something has changed.
>
>   I don't see anything in /etc/modules.d/alsa that defines the second
> card as default. Does anyone know how Alsa does that?
>
>   It's possible that Alsa getting too cleaver by half and somehow
> 'deciding' that the USB interface is more suited to doing 5.1 than the
> internal card. If it is then shame on it I say. ;-)
>
>   Two potential solutions come to mind:
>
> 1) At the xine command line tell it which card to use. I'm looking
> through the xine --help listing but heck if I see how to do that.
>
> 2) Somehow tell also to make card 0 default and see if that fixes the
> problem.
>
>   Anyway, so the problem is partially solved. I can go the xine-users
> list and see if anyone there has a quick fix for this. At least it's
> starting to make some sense.
>
>   Thanks in advance for any ideas.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> # Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
> # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-
> modules.conf-rc,v
> 1.4 2004/11/16 01:31:22 eradicator Exp $
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> options snd-intel8x0 index=0
>
> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
> options snd-usb-audio index=1
>
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> options snd cards_limit=2
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>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Danilo Marcelo wrote:
[snip]

> 2007/9/18, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:

> >   OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> > cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> > not the PC's sound card:

Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you should make sure 
that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your system.  If two 
cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an option to 
choose between the two.

BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/19/07, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Danilo Marcelo wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > 2007/9/18, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> > >   OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> > > cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> > > not the PC's sound card:
>
> Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you should make sure
> that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your system.

I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing the
audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.

> If two
> cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an option to
> choose between the two.

I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for card
0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but audio
goes to card 1...
>
> BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
> --

I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've added
it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 9/19/07, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you should make
> > sure that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your system.
>
> I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
> Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing the
> audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
> gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.

Just an idea.  I am not sure why your xine is behaving like this . . .

> > If two
> > cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an option to
> > choose between the two.
>
> I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
> that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for card
> 0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but audio
> goes to card 1...

I'm flummoxed.  It wouldn't be a udev rule that you have forgotten about . . . 
but then this would not just affect xine.

> > BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
>
> I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've added
> it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.

With regards to your flags, I'd add ffmpeg.  It installs the libavcodec for 
enc/decoding a multitude of video and audio data types.

Good luck.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Danilo Marcelo]

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Ok, here is my flags:

gentoo ~ # emerge -vp k3b

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa hal kde -arts -css -debug
-dvdr* -encode* -ffmpeg* -flac -mp3* -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd*
-vorbis -xinerama" LINGUAS="pt_BR -af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de
-el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt -mk -ms
-nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -ro -ru -se -sl -sr -sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk
-zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
gentoo ~ #

I hope it helps you!

Danilo

2007/9/19, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:
>
> On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On 9/19/07, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you should
> make
> > > sure that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your
> system.
> >
> > I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
> > Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing the
> > audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
> > gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.
>
> Just an idea.  I am not sure why your xine is behaving like this . . .
>
> > > If two
> > > cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an option
> to
> > > choose between the two.
> >
> > I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
> > that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for card
> > 0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but audio
> > goes to card 1...
>
> I'm flummoxed.  It wouldn't be a udev rule that you have forgotten about .
> . .
> but then this would not just affect xine.
>
> > > BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
> >
> > I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've added
> > it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.
>
> With regards to your flags, I'd add ffmpeg.  It installs the libavcodec
> for
> enc/decoding a multitude of video and audio data types.
>
> Good luck.
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, here is my flags:
>
> gentoo ~ # emerge -vp k3b
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa hal kde -arts -css -debug
> -dvdr* -encode* -ffmpeg* -flac -mp3* -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd*
> -vorbis -xinerama" LINGUAS="pt_BR -af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de
> -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt -mk -ms
> -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -ro -ru -se -sl -sr - sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk
> -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> gentoo ~ #
>
> I hope it helps you!
>
> Danilo
>
> 2007/9/19, Mick < michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:
> > On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > On 9/19/07, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you should
> make
> > > > sure that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your
> system.
> > >
> > > I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
> > > Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing the
> > > audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
> > > gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.
> >
> > Just an idea.  I am not sure why your xine is behaving like this . . .
> >
> > > > If two
> > > > cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an option
> to
> > > > choose between the two.
> > >
> > > I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
> > > that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for card
> > > 0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but audio
> > > goes to card 1...
> >
> > I'm flummoxed.  It wouldn't be a udev rule that you have forgotten about .
> . .
> > but then this would not just affect xine.
> >
> > > > BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
> > >
> > > I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've added
> > > it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.
> >
> > With regards to your flags, I'd add ffmpeg.  It installs the libavcodec
> for
> > enc/decoding a multitude of video and audio data types.
> >
> > Good luck.
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mick

Hi,
   Tried it all. No luck. xine still sends audio to the USB sound card
and not to the on-board, default sound chip.

   I also tested CD audio. Same thing. xine sends everything it's
doing to the USB port and not the the default sound card, but only on
this system.

   I'm out of ideas. I'll file a bug in Bugzilla I guess.

   Thanks very much for your support. I appreciated it even if we
didn't manage to solve the problem.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Danilo Marcelo]

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OK. Did you try to remove USB support and check sound? Maybe it works . . .

2007/9/20, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> On 9/20/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, here is my flags:
> >
> > gentoo ~ # emerge -vp k3b
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa hal kde -arts -css -debug
> > -dvdr* -encode* -ffmpeg* -flac -mp3* -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile
> -vcd*
> > -vorbis -xinerama" LINGUAS="pt_BR -af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da
> -de
> > -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt -mk
> -ms
> > -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -ro -ru -se -sl -sr - sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr
> -uk
> > -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
> >
> > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > gentoo ~ #
> >
> > I hope it helps you!
> >
> > Danilo
> >
> > 2007/9/19, Mick < michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:
> > > On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > On 9/19/07, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you
> should
> > make
> > > > > sure that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in your
> > system.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
> > > > Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing
> the
> > > > audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
> > > > gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.
> > >
> > > Just an idea.  I am not sure why your xine is behaving like this . . .
> > >
> > > > > If two
> > > > > cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an
> option
> > to
> > > > > choose between the two.
> > > >
> > > > I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
> > > > that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for
> card
> > > > 0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but
> audio
> > > > goes to card 1...
> > >
> > > I'm flummoxed.  It wouldn't be a udev rule that you have forgotten
> about .
> > . .
> > > but then this would not just affect xine.
> > >
> > > > > BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've
> added
> > > > it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.
> > >
> > > With regards to your flags, I'd add ffmpeg.  It installs the
> libavcodec
> > for
> > > enc/decoding a multitude of video and audio data types.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Mick
>
> Hi,
>    Tried it all. No luck. xine still sends audio to the USB sound card
> and not to the on-board, default sound chip.
>
>    I also tested CD audio. Same thing. xine sends everything it's
> doing to the USB port and not the the default sound card, but only on
> this system.
>
>    I'm out of ideas. I'll file a bug in Bugzilla I guess.
>
>    Thanks very much for your support. I appreciated it even if we
> didn't manage to solve the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Danilo Marcelo]

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I was reading your first message again and now i understood your real
problem.
Some tips:

1) Change your player to test;
2) Remove your internal sound card
3) Test alsaconf again

I'm doing my best to help you.
Good luck!

2007/9/20, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com>:
>
> OK. Did you try to remove USB support and check sound? Maybe it works . .
> .
>
> 2007/9/20, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
> >
> > On 9/20/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, here is my flags:
> > >
> > > gentoo ~ # emerge -vp k3b
> > >
> > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > >
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > > [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa hal kde -arts -css
> > -debug
> > > -dvdr* -encode* -ffmpeg* -flac -mp3* -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile
> > -vcd*
> > > -vorbis -xinerama" LINGUAS="pt_BR -af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da
> > -de
> > > -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt -mk
> > -ms
> > > -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -ro -ru -se -sl -sr - sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr
> > -uk
> > > -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
> > >
> > > Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
> > > gentoo ~ #
> > >
> > > I hope it helps you!
> > >
> > > Danilo
> > >
> > > 2007/9/19, Mick < michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:
> > > > On Wednesday 19 September 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > > > On 9/19/07, Mick < michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Have you played around with alsaconf and alsactl?  Also, you
> > should
> > > make
> > > > > > sure that there is no old asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc left in
> > your
> > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't. Not totally sure how I'd change anything by doing that.
> > > > > Both cards work with other apps. It's just xine that hard routing
> > the
> > > > > audio to the second card, at least as far as I've seen so far.
> > > > > gmplayer routes DVD audio to the first card correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Just an idea.  I am not sure why your xine is behaving like this . .
> > .
> > > >
> > > > > > If two
> > > > > > cards are registered I would expect that xine will give you an
> > option
> > > to
> > > > > > choose between the two.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it does in the preferences area. It uses the Alsa language
> >
> > > > > that only Alsa developers totally get but seems to end in :0 for
> > card
> > > > > 0 and :1 for card 1. However I already have it set to card 0 but
> > audio
> > > > > goes to card 1...
> > > >
> > > > I'm flummoxed.  It wouldn't be a udev rule that you have forgotten
> > about .
> > > . .
> > > > but then this would not just affect xine.
> > > >
> > > > > > BTW, you may also want to set your sound card in /etc/make.conf.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't know Gentoo changed the way that is done. Thanks. I've
> > added
> > > > > it. It did not cause any changes in what gets built though.
> > > >
> > > > With regards to your flags, I'd add ffmpeg.  It installs the
> > libavcodec
> > > for
> > > > enc/decoding a multitude of video and audio data types.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Mick
> >
> > Hi,
> >    Tried it all. No luck. xine still sends audio to the USB sound card
> > and not to the on-board, default sound chip.
> >
> >    I also tested CD audio. Same thing. xine sends everything it's
> > doing to the USB port and not the the default sound card, but only on
> > this system.
> >
> >    I'm out of ideas. I'll file a bug in Bugzilla I guess.
> >
> >    Thanks very much for your support. I appreciated it even if we
> > didn't manage to solve the problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
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> >
> >
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/20/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was reading your first message again and now i understood your real
> problem.
> Some tips:
>
> 1) Change your player to test;

Again, I have tested audio with Aqualung & mplayer on the desktop and
Flash in Firefox. They work correctly and go to the internal sound
chip. I've tested DVD with gmplayer. DVD's play fine and the audio
goes to the internal sound chip. I've tested DVDs and CDs with xine.
In both cases xine sends it to the external USB sound card.

> 2) Remove your internal sound card

I cannot. It's a chip on the motherboard. On the other hand it might
be interesting, at least for test purposes, to disconnect the external
USB device and restart Alsa. Possibly xine will go internal in that
case.

> 3) Test alsaconf again

Yeah, been down that road. I've been working with Alsa for almost 8
years now. Unless there is something very subtle going on here my Alsa
config is very generic & does specify which sound device is associated
with which sound card number. And again, every other audio application
works fine, and xine worked fine until maybe two weeks ago.
Unfortunately my wife doesn't inform me at the first instant things
stop working so there's no good way at this point to know what update
broke it, or whether the update was xine itself, Alsa, or something
else.

All that said I'll run alsaconf and see what it would do although IIRC
it doesn't actually set up dual sound cards. You have (or had) to do
that by hand.

>
> I'm doing my best to help you.
> Good luck!

And I do appreciate it! I'll post back about the no-USB experiment
later this morning if I get a chance to run it.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Danilo Marcelo]

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Hi,

in tip # 2, i'd like to say to remove the drivers, like modprobe -r
<driver>, not phisically.
Did you ever try OSS or another sound server?

2007/9/20, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
>
> On 9/20/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was reading your first message again and now i understood your real
> > problem.
> > Some tips:
> >
> > 1) Change your player to test;
>
> Again, I have tested audio with Aqualung & mplayer on the desktop and
> Flash in Firefox. They work correctly and go to the internal sound
> chip. I've tested DVD with gmplayer. DVD's play fine and the audio
> goes to the internal sound chip. I've tested DVDs and CDs with xine.
> In both cases xine sends it to the external USB sound card.
>
> > 2) Remove your internal sound card
>
> I cannot. It's a chip on the motherboard. On the other hand it might
> be interesting, at least for test purposes, to disconnect the external
> USB device and restart Alsa. Possibly xine will go internal in that
> case.
>
> > 3) Test alsaconf again
>
> Yeah, been down that road. I've been working with Alsa for almost 8
> years now. Unless there is something very subtle going on here my Alsa
> config is very generic & does specify which sound device is associated
> with which sound card number. And again, every other audio application
> works fine, and xine worked fine until maybe two weeks ago.
> Unfortunately my wife doesn't inform me at the first instant things
> stop working so there's no good way at this point to know what update
> broke it, or whether the update was xine itself, Alsa, or something
> else.
>
> All that said I'll run alsaconf and see what it would do although IIRC
> it doesn't actually set up dual sound cards. You have (or had) to do
> that by hand.
>
> >
> > I'm doing my best to help you.
> > Good luck!
>
> And I do appreciate it! I'll post back about the no-USB experiment
> later this morning if I get a chance to run it.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
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>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/19/07, Danilo Marcelo <danilo.marcelo@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had the same problem and resolved installing k3b. I think this error
> occurs because missing plugins. Try to emerge k3b but check flags before.
>
>
> 2007/9/18, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >   Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
> > audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
> > the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
> > don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
> > the command line?
> >
> >   OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> > cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> > not the PC's sound card:
> >
<SNIP>

Hi,
   OK, I could try that. Seems very hit and miss though and since I
don't know what flags you think might be involved I'll past here
before I do it.

   The current version installed is stable. The flags currently being
used are shown here:

dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv k3b

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa dvdr encode flac hal
kde mp3 sndfile vorbis -arts -css -debug -ffmpeg -musepack
-musicbrainz -vcd -xinerama" LINGUAS="-af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy
-da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km
-lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -se -sl -sr
-sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #

   I could update to ~x86. If I did this is what would be done:

dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv k3b

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.3 [0.12.17] USE="alsa dvdr dvdread%*
encode flac hal kde mp3 sndfile vorbis -arts -css -debug -emovix%
-ffmpeg -musepack -musicbrainz -vcd -xinerama" LINGUAS="-af -ar% -bg
-br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa% -fi -fr -ga
-gl% -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka% -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl
-pt -pt_BR -ru -rw% -se -sk% -sr -sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz% -zh_CN
-zh_TW (-bn%) (-km%) (-ro%) (-sl%)" 4,974 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 4,974 kB
dragonfly ~ #

   How do your flags compare?

   I don't mind doing this. (Heck - I'll try anything.) However the
machine is clean with emerge -DuN world and revdep-rebuild says
there's nothing to rebuild so emerging k3b only rebuilds k3b and not
anything that I expect xine to be using.

   Drop me a note with your flags if you get a chance.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Miroslav Puda]

On 17:34 Tue 18 Sep     , Mark Knecht wrote:
>    I don't see anything in /etc/modules.d/alsa that defines the second
>    card as default. Does anyone know how Alsa does that?

I think you need alsa support through modules for this but I am not
sure. First card is default one. To figure out index of your sound cards do
this:
$ cat /proc/asound/modules
0 cx88_alsa
1 snd_via82x
2 snd_mpu401

Now write this to /etc/modprobe.d/sound:
options snd_via82xx index=0
options snd_mpu401 index=1
options cx88_alsa index=2

Card with index zero will be default. Then run:
# update-modules
After next boot, order of your sound cards should be ok.

Note: I have this problem without any HW or SW changes. I don't know
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/19/07, Miroslav Puda <pakanek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17:34 Tue 18 Sep     , Mark Knecht wrote:
> >    I don't see anything in /etc/modules.d/alsa that defines the second
> >    card as default. Does anyone know how Alsa does that?
>
> I think you need alsa support through modules for this but I am not
> sure. First card is default one. To figure out index of your sound cards do
> this:
> $ cat /proc/asound/modules
> 0 cx88_alsa
> 1 snd_via82x
> 2 snd_mpu401
>
> Now write this to /etc/modprobe.d/sound:
> options snd_via82xx index=0
> options snd_mpu401 index=1
> options cx88_alsa index=2
>
> Card with index zero will be default. Then run:
> # update-modules
> After next boot, order of your sound cards should be ok.
>
> Note: I have this problem without any HW or SW changes. I don't know
> what triger this.

Hi Miroslav,
   Yes, I think I already have all that set up correctly. See the
following info:

dragonfly ~ # cat /proc/asound/modules
 0 snd_intel8x0
 1 snd_usb_audio
dragonfly ~ # cat /etc/modules.d/alsa | grep options
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
options snd-usb-audio index=1
options snd cards_limit=2
dragonfly ~ # cat /etc/modprobe.conf | grep options
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
options snd-usb-audio index=1
options snd cards_limit=2
dragonfly ~ #

   The Intel HDA card is default. The USB device is an external USB to
Optical spdif converter that runs to the external home theater
receiver.

   All audio applications EXCEPT xine use the internal Intel card.
ONLY xine is using the external USB device. (Card 1 instead of Card 0)

   Keep in mind that one my Gentoo-based AMD64 machine I have two
audio cards as shown here and xine is working fine. Audio goes to card
0 exactly as it should. It gets mixed into the HDSP later but I can
tell that xine audio is going through the 8X0 driver as it responds to
the Gnome volume control and shows p on the correct input in
hdspmixer.

mark@lightning ~ $ cat /proc/asound/modules
 0 snd_intel8x0
 1 snd_hdsp
mark@lightning ~ $

   Note that you might want to add the options snd cards_limit=3 to
your config file.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi Mark,

Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> Hi,
>    Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
> audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
> the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
> don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
> the command line?
>    OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> not the PC's sound card:

maybe I missed that one in this thread, but did you look at xine's 
audio-configuration?
Could you post the output of grep "audio" .xine/config here?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/25/07, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> > Hi,
> >    Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
> > audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
> > the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
> > don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
> > the command line?
> >    OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> > cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> > not the PC's sound card:
>
> maybe I missed that one in this thread, but did you look at xine's
> audio-configuration?
> Could you post the output of grep "audio" .xine/config here?
>
> Regards,
> Michael

Hi Michael,
   Thanks for taking a look. Let me know if you see anything or want more info.

Cheers,
Mark

dragonfly mark # cat .xine/config | grep audio
#gui.post_audio_plugin:goom
#gui.audio_mixer_method:Sound card
audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0
# audio driver to use
#audio.driver:auto
#audio.a52.dynamic_range:0
# downmix audio to 2 channel surround stereo
#audio.a52.surround_downmix:0
#audio.a52.level:100
#audio.device.alsa_default_device:default
#audio.device.alsa_front_device:plug:front:default
#audio.device.alsa_mixer_name:PCM
#audio.device.alsa_mmap_enable:0
#audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2
#audio.device.alsa_surround40_device:plug:surround40:0
#audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0
#audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Stereo 2.0
#audio.synchronization.passthrough_offset:0
# play audio even on slow/fast speeds
#audio.synchronization.slow_fast_audio:0
# method to sync audio and video
#audio.synchronization.av_sync_method:metronom feedback
#audio.synchronization.force_rate:0
#audio.synchronization.resample_mode:auto
# startup audio volume
#audio.volume.mixer_volume:50
#audio.volume.remember_volume:0
# device used for CD audio
#media.audio_cd.device:/dev/cdrom
#media.audio_cd.drive_slowdown:4
#media.audio_cd.use_cddb:1
#media.audio_cd.cddb_cachedir:/home/mark/.xine/cddbcache
#media.audio_cd.cddb_port:8880
#media.audio_cd.cddb_server:freedb.freedb.org
# number of audio buffers
#engine.buffers.audio_num_buffers:230
# priority for dvaudio decoder
#engine.decoder_priorities.dvaudio:0
# priority for ffmpegaudio decoder
#engine.decoder_priorities.ffmpegaudio:0
dragonfly mark #


dragonfly mark # uname -a
Linux dragonfly 2.6.20-gentoo-r1 #4 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 15 06:22:55
PDT 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
dragonfly mark #

dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
                      Intel ICH5 with ALC655 at 0xfa081000, irq 21
 1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC
                      Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio CODEC
 at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full s
dragonfly mark #

dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc1 (Tue Jan 09
09:56:17 2007 UTC).
dragonfly mark #
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi,

Am Dienstag, 25. September 2007 23:24:27 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On 9/25/07, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2007 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> > > Hi,
> > >    Message is to Randy and others that have been helping me with my
> > > audio problems with xine. This evening I discovered the root cause of
> > > the problem of no sound when playing DVDs in xine. Unfortunately I
> > > don't have a good solution yet. Maybe someone knows how to fix this at
> > > the command line?
> > >    OK, xine does produce sound, but this machine has  multiple sound
> > > cards and it's choosing the one that goes to the home theater system,
> > > not the PC's sound card:
> >
> > maybe I missed that one in this thread, but did you look at xine's
> > audio-configuration?
> > Could you post the output of grep "audio" .xine/config here?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael
>
> Hi Michael,
>    Thanks for taking a look. Let me know if you see anything or want more
> info.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark

afaik those are all default values, except audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0.
I don't think, that's a problem.
Does xine play every sound through the wrong device or only DVDs (5.1)?
Maybe there's a stale asoundrc in your home, somehow 
redirecting "plug:surround51:0" to the second device?

I'm out of ideas now, it seems :(

Regards,
Michael


> dragonfly mark # cat .xine/config | grep audio
> #gui.post_audio_plugin:goom
> #gui.audio_mixer_method:Sound card
> audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0
> # audio driver to use
> #audio.driver:auto
> #audio.a52.dynamic_range:0
> # downmix audio to 2 channel surround stereo
> #audio.a52.surround_downmix:0
> #audio.a52.level:100
> #audio.device.alsa_default_device:default
> #audio.device.alsa_front_device:plug:front:default
> #audio.device.alsa_mixer_name:PCM
> #audio.device.alsa_mmap_enable:0
> #audio.device.alsa_passthrough_device:iec958:AES0=0x6,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AE
>S3=0x2 #audio.device.alsa_surround40_device:plug:surround40:0
> #audio.device.alsa_surround51_device:plug:surround51:0
> #audio.output.speaker_arrangement:Stereo 2.0
> #audio.synchronization.passthrough_offset:0
> # play audio even on slow/fast speeds
> #audio.synchronization.slow_fast_audio:0
> # method to sync audio and video
> #audio.synchronization.av_sync_method:metronom feedback
> #audio.synchronization.force_rate:0
> #audio.synchronization.resample_mode:auto
> # startup audio volume
> #audio.volume.mixer_volume:50
> #audio.volume.remember_volume:0
> # device used for CD audio
> #media.audio_cd.device:/dev/cdrom
> #media.audio_cd.drive_slowdown:4
> #media.audio_cd.use_cddb:1
> #media.audio_cd.cddb_cachedir:/home/mark/.xine/cddbcache
> #media.audio_cd.cddb_port:8880
> #media.audio_cd.cddb_server:freedb.freedb.org
> # number of audio buffers
> #engine.buffers.audio_num_buffers:230
> # priority for dvaudio decoder
> #engine.decoder_priorities.dvaudio:0
> # priority for ffmpegaudio decoder
> #engine.decoder_priorities.ffmpegaudio:0
> dragonfly mark #
>
>
> dragonfly mark # uname -a
> Linux dragonfly 2.6.20-gentoo-r1 #4 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 15 06:22:55
> PDT 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
> dragonfly mark #
>
> dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [ICH5           ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
>                       Intel ICH5 with ALC655 at 0xfa081000, irq 21
>  1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC
>                       Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio CODEC
>  at usb-0000:00:1d.1-1, full s
> dragonfly mark #
>
> dragonfly mark # cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14rc1 (Tue Jan 09
> 09:56:17 2007 UTC).
> dragonfly mark #


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Re: [gentoo-user] xine - no sound on DVDs - solved (sort of)

[Mark Knecht]

On 9/26/07, Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> afaik those are all default values, except audio.alsa_hw_mixer:0.
> I don't think, that's a problem.
> Does xine play every sound through the wrong device or only DVDs (5.1)?
> Maybe there's a stale asoundrc in your home, somehow
> redirecting "plug:surround51:0" to the second device?
>
> I'm out of ideas now, it seems :(
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>

Hi Michael,
   Thanks for responding.

   As I stated in the original thread, long since cast the the email
bone pile, the only application that seems to have a problem on this
machine is xine. Aqualung (an audio file & CD player) sends audio to
the Intel chip. mplayer, playing DVDs, sends audio to the Intel chip.
Only xine by default is sending audio to the external USB converter.
The problem in xine is not specific to DVDs. It does the same thing
playing CDs.

   Note that with Aqualung I can reroute audio to the external USB
converter by purposely routing audio to the ':1' sound device, exactly
as Alsa should perform I believe.

   As far as I can tell the machine has neither an asound.state file
or any .asoundrc files:

dragonfly ~ # slocate .asoundrc
dragonfly ~ # slocate asound.state
/var/lib/alsa/asound.state
dragonfly ~ #

   Also, the problem is not specific to a user. It happens in my
account, my wife's account and my son's account. It seems to be a
global issue.

   As background, I have a second machine with dual sound cards. It
has the same generic Intel HDA audio device in it. It's second sound
card is an RME HDSP9652. xine works fine on that machine. Audio goes
to the Intel chip as it should.

   I'm at a complete loss on this one. It's starting to feel as if it
might be an Alsa issue and specific to USB audio. As I've gotten no
response from the xine-users list and this seems to be beyond the
typical Gentoo issue I suppose I might try those folks, assuming no
one else here has any experiments for me to try.

   Thanks again for your help.

Cheers,
Mark
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