From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISXJp-0005qx-Ro for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:15:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l84C81VX028987; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:08:01 GMT Received: from mgw-ext12.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [131.228.20.171]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l84C2Awm022557 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:02:11 GMT Received: from esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh107.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.143]) by mgw-ext12.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l84C1qe1030761 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:02:09 +0300 Received: from esebh103.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.33]) by esebh107.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:49 +0300 Received: from esebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.177]) by esebh103.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:49 +0300 Received: from duprn002-10271.europe.nokia.com ([172.25.102.71]) by esebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:49 +0300 From: Dirk Heinrichs Organization: Capgemini Deutschland GmbH To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM* Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:01:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070902143233.GA9496@waltdnes.org> <200709041130.13750.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5597866.pIBYCjSEPt"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709041401.48496.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2007 12:01:49.0185 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F97AF10:01C7EEEB] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Archives-Salt: 577372b8-e8ba-4209-a5ef-d427d8fa900a X-Archives-Hash: 8a24df8cbd190c643080a64009be9f73 --nextPart5597866.pIBYCjSEPt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: > Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > >> Do you even need one? > > > > Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a > > laptop) also be encrypted. > > Right. I think I might have confused the necessity to have an initramfs > for LVM and the need to have it for an encrypted root. > > OTOH, if you put /usr, /home, /var, /tmp and all the others on LVM, you > could just leave the root partition unencrypted, as it wouldn't contain > anything sensitive. I know it's not the safest thing to do, but I have the key for the other=20 volumes on the root volume, so that this is the only one for which I need a= =20 passphrase. And no I can't put them on a USB stick, because USB is=20 (physically) defective on this Laptop :-( > >> And from what I remember, you can't resize a mounted ext3 partition > > > > You should refresh your memory, then :-) Those times are long over. > > I have googled a bit but I couldn't find any recent references for that > except for a RedHat patch to 2.6.7. Specifically, e2fstools doesn't seem > to mention online resizing at all. > > Could you give me a pointer? Can't remember when e2fstools were dropped from Gentoo, but resize2fs is=20 part of e2fsprogs. > > Do it right, then - use EVMS *SCNR* > > Any specific pros/contras? The only contra I know is that EVMS currently (still) can't handle online=20 ext2/3 resize, but you can still do it manually as you would with pure LVM= =20 anyway. (Or use a different fs). Other than that it IMHO has only pros. Be it partitioning, sw raid, logical= =20 volumes, fs creation, resizing, even mounting :-) - everything is done in=20 one single tool. > From the homepage it looks rather complicated=20 Not more than LVM. The terminology is a bit different though, but once=20 you're used to it it is much simpler. I switched from LVM (1) to EVMS its=20 early stages (kernel 2.4) and never looked back. Bye... Dirk =2D-=20 Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: dirk.heinrichs@capgemini.com Wanheimerstra=C3=9Fe 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 D=C3=BCsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net --nextPart5597866.pIBYCjSEPt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBG3Uks8NVtnsLkZ7sRAlpSAJ0VvO8l/zkswkc7n/lATq8P9lRrcgCeJLte TvyEZUoxKWBXGbId2PwplmI= =Qb1Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5597866.pIBYCjSEPt-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list