From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISUyE-00065B-Pn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:45:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l849bgvp026614; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:37:42 GMT Received: from mgw-ext11.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [131.228.20.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l849ULer015584 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:30:21 GMT Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext11.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l849TZ7k015358 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:30:20 +0300 Received: from esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.34]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:30:14 +0300 Received: from esebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.177]) by esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:30:14 +0300 Received: from duprn002-10271.europe.nokia.com ([172.25.102.71]) by esebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:30:14 +0300 From: Dirk Heinrichs Organization: Capgemini Deutschland GmbH To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM* Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:30:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070902143233.GA9496@waltdnes.org> <20070903005717.27f14f6b@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3533592.TvfynuXbKl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709041130.13750.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2007 09:30:14.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[32A4C660:01C7EED6] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Archives-Salt: 13e79215-c058-4ef4-965c-9b63bd9626c9 X-Archives-Hash: dceec9b4a8646213be07177ac722c787 --nextPart3533592.TvfynuXbKl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves > > everything you want to, and more, without the compromises. > > There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to > have an initrd (or initramfs). There is no need to have an initramfs unless you put / on an LV. > From what I remember, this has always=20 > required manually copying some utilities like the LVM tools to the > initrd (or writing a script that does it), and remembering to do it > every time I update one of the tools, and not to forget copying all > required libraries as well, and so on. I could send you a script. And no, it doesn't harm if you forget to update= =20 the stuff in the initramfs. > OTOH, I have stopped looking at solutions that need an initrd quite some > time ago, so things might be easier nowadays. How do you manage your > initrd? With a simple self written script that copies the needed tools to a=20 directory used by the kernel build. > Do you even need one?=20 Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a=20 laptop) also be encrypted. > And from what I remember, you can't resize a mounted ext3 partition You should refresh your memory, then :-) Those times are long over. > But I'd love to be proven wrong on all the points above! Done (partly) :-) > This would=20 > certainly motivate me to look into LVM seriously this time. Do it right, then - use EVMS *SCNR* > It really seems to be the right solution to the various problems I have > seen with static partitions. It doesn't just seem so. It is. Bye... Dirk =2D-=20 Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: dirk.heinrichs@capgemini.com Wanheimerstra=C3=9Fe 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 D=C3=BCsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net --nextPart3533592.TvfynuXbKl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBG3SWl8NVtnsLkZ7sRAkQfAJ0fQygzUJUN+nbkXruhR4FfMdHMHwCcCfK9 QGGOqTG7ezdpZUcZaHkGEUA= =EdyV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3533592.TvfynuXbKl-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list