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From: Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT    USING LVM*
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:30:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709041130.13750.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbj545$m0b$1@sea.gmane.org>

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Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 schrieb ext Remy Blank:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Why do you make such a big deal of not using LVM? It achieves
> > everything you want to, and more, without the compromises.
>
> There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to
> have an initrd (or initramfs).

There is no need to have an initramfs unless you put / on an LV.

> From what I remember, this has always 
> required manually copying some utilities like the LVM tools to the
> initrd (or writing a script that does it), and remembering to do it
> every time I update one of the tools, and not to forget copying all
> required libraries as well, and so on.

I could send you a script. And no, it doesn't harm if you forget to update 
the stuff in the initramfs.

> OTOH, I have stopped looking at solutions that need an initrd quite some
> time ago, so things might be easier nowadays. How do you manage your
> initrd?

With a simple self written script that copies the needed tools to a 
directory used by the kernel build.

> Do you even need one? 

Yes, I do. Because I have / on a logical volume which may (in case of a 
laptop) also be encrypted.

> And from what I remember, you can't resize a mounted ext3 partition

You should refresh your memory, then :-) Those times are long over.

> But I'd love to be proven wrong on all the points above!

Done (partly) :-)

> This would 
> certainly motivate me to look into LVM seriously this time.

Do it right, then - use EVMS *SCNR*

> It really seems to be the right solution to the various problems I have
> seen with static partitions.

It doesn't just seem so. It is.

Bye...

	Dirk
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-04  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-02 14:32 [gentoo-user] 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM* Walter Dnes
2007-09-02 19:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-02 20:00   ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-09-02 23:20     ` Walter Dnes
2007-09-02 23:57       ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-04  8:30         ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
2007-09-04  8:45           ` Alan McKinnon
2007-09-04  9:54             ` Remy Blank
2007-09-04 10:00               ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-09-04 10:04                 ` Alan McKinnon
2007-09-04 10:19               ` Alan McKinnon
2007-09-04 11:20                 ` Remy Blank
2007-09-04 12:27                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-04 22:16                 ` Walter Dnes
2007-09-04 12:29               ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-04 22:42               ` Alexander Skwar
2007-09-04 22:08             ` Walter Dnes
2007-09-04 22:46               ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-09-04 23:23               ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2007-09-05  6:56               ` Alan McKinnon
2007-09-08  1:29                 ` Walter Dnes
2007-09-04  9:25           ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-04 10:05             ` Remy Blank
2007-09-04  9:30           ` Dirk Heinrichs [this message]
2007-09-04 10:14             ` Remy Blank
2007-09-04 12:01               ` Dirk Heinrichs
2007-09-04 12:40                 ` Remy Blank
2007-09-04 12:28               ` Neil Bothwick
2007-09-04 22:40           ` Alexander Skwar
2007-09-03  6:08       ` [gentoo-user] " Dirk Heinrichs

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