From: Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:38:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707181438.35366.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707171227.23899.bss03@volumehost.net>
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the
> > GPL.
>
> It was *barely* within the word, and definitely not within the spirit
> of the GPL. Don't beleive me? Ask anyone at the FSF or RMS himself.
> They wrote the thing.
TiVo did just that and got the A-OK signal and thumbs up from the FSF's
lawyers. Sometime later, someone had a hissy fit, FSF reversed their
stated position and suddenly Tivo becomes spawn of satan.
Tivo had no option, their content providers would never have given them
a license to redistribute content without the mods they did, and the
shareholders would never have approved of Tivo trying to go against the
content provider's conditions. So, they obeyed the rules and as a
measure of thanks RMS rubs elephant shit all over their faces.
It's not the software that is crippled, it's the hardware. I'm not a
USian and don't own a Tivo but I imagine it's similar to tv decoder we
have here locally - heavily subsidised. It's built to do one thing
well - record and display TV shows. If you don't like the business
model Tivo came up with, then don't use the Tivo service. After all
it's a TV decoder, not a kidney dyalysis machine....
According to Alan Cox, the thing has a bog-standard IDe drive in it. If
you remove it, stick it in a bog-standard pc and power up, it boots
just fine. So, in what way have Tivo removed people's freedom as
granted by the GPL?
alan
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Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?
Alan McKinnon
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-17 17:38 [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? burlingk
2007-07-17 17:27 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 12:38 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2007-07-18 14:13 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:15 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 13:48 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:33 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 14:37 burlingk
2007-07-19 6:13 burlingk
2007-07-19 5:59 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19 5:54 burlingk
2007-07-18 11:07 burlingk
2007-07-18 12:29 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-07-18 4:26 burlingk
2007-07-18 4:18 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:57 burlingk
2007-07-18 13:51 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 12:12 burlingk
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 10:14 burlingk
2007-07-17 10:42 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 11:01 ` Graham Murray
2007-07-17 12:48 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 16:19 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 13:13 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 17:40 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 18:10 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 22:34 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 23:48 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19 2:10 ` Stroller
2007-07-19 1:58 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:14 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 19:29 ` Mike Edenfield
2007-07-16 0:52 burlingk
2007-07-16 12:15 ` Mark Shields
2007-07-16 21:53 ` Jerry McBride
2007-07-17 1:26 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17 1:59 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 1:26 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17 2:08 ` Henk Boom
2007-07-13 22:11 Jerry McBride
2007-07-13 22:27 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-18 9:28 ` b.n.
2007-07-18 16:23 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
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