* [gentoo-user] QT dir:
@ 2007-07-04 11:18 Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-04 11:26 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-04 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi gentooers.
I have some trouble with the QTDIR variable of my system.
When I emerge some package that requires QT 3 , the configure scripts
ends with this error:
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers
and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
so I found the rigth directory and patch the enviroment with the next
command:
export QTDIR=/usr/qt/3
With this, everything works fine, but i think that a user with less
experience than me, will be fool this.
..pretending to qt
----------------------
elwood ~ # emerge -pvtD qt
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-4.2.3-r1 USE="dbus doc gif glib jpeg mng
mysql nas opengl png qt3support sqlite3 zlib -accessibility -cups -debug
-examples (-firebird) -nis -odbc -pch -postgres -sqlite -xinerama"
INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 0 kB
----------------------
my make.conf
----------------------
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
USE="3dnow symlink -arts audiofile X -eds sse sse2 dbus -emboss firefox
-foomaticdb -fortran gif -gnome -idn -ipv6 -lcms samba lirc mng xml imap
-fam -clamav -ldap nsplugin sqlite3 mysql -pam -static berkdb ssl sasl
dri xface gtk nptl qt3 qt4 hal kde mp3 aac gstreamer mpeg ffmpeg dv dvdr
dvd dvdnav dvdread xine dvb win32codecs jpeg speex v4l ogg vorbis a52
acc alsa mplayer oss esd cdr png musepack musicbrainz quicktime xpm vcd
-kdehiddenvisibility kdeenablefinal usb bzip2 apache2 avahi exif gphoto2
xscreensaver multilib flac mad encode sox cddb directfb xv xvid x264 mmx
opengl nas sdl tcl tk cairo -cups gpm tiff mikmod spell truetype unicode
wifi ao pulseaudio -altivec -theora -xinerama ftp aalib acpi dts
imagemagick"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse"
#SYNC="rsync://lx-arnau.pic.es/gentoo-portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia vesa"
PORT_ENOTICE_DIR=/var/tmp/portage/enotice/
#GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://linuv.uv.es/mirror/gentoo/"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/Gentoo/
ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/gentoo/
ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/gentoo/
http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/gentoo
ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ "
#PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/myportage
/usr/local/portage/musicbrainz-overlay
/usr/portage/local/layman/php-experimental"
# /usr/portage/local/layman/kde
LINGUAS="it en"
DVB_CARDS="tda1004x"
LIRC_DEVICES="hauppauge hauppauge_dvb"
ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m hdsp hdspm"
# * LIRC_OPTS is deprecated from lirc-0.8.0-r1 on
#LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver=devinput"
#LIRCD_OPTS="-d /dev/input/event4"
#LIRC_OPTS="--with-driver=devinput"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
CAMERAS="sonydscf1"
FEATURES="ccache"
CCACHE_SIZE="4G"
----------
Thanks
Bye Bye
http://porcelinux.no-ip.info/mediawiki
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 11:18 [gentoo-user] QT dir: Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-04 11:26 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-04 11:38 ` Alessandro del Gallo
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-04 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hi gentooers.
>
> I have some trouble with the QTDIR variable of my system.
> When I emerge some package that requires QT 3 , the configure scripts
> ends with this error:
>
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers
> and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
check this:
env.d/50qtdir3
should have this:
QTDIR=/usr/qt/3
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 11:26 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-07-04 11:38 ` Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-04 11:53 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-04 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 11:38 ` Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-04 11:53 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-04 13:19 ` Alessandro del Gallo
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-04 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
>
> Hi gentooers.
>
> I have some trouble with the QTDIR variable of my system.
> When I emerge some package that requires QT 3 , the configure scripts
> ends with this error:
>
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers
> and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
>
>
>
> check this:
> env.d/50qtdir3
> should have this:
> QTDIR=/usr/qt/3
>
> Yes it has:
> elwood env.d # grep "QTDIR=/usr/qt/3" *
> 50qtdir3:QTDIR=/usr/qt/3
> 50qtdir3-emul:QTDIR=/usr/qt/3
>
> I don't understaaaand.
>
> my current patch is a
> echo "export QTDIR=/usr/qt/3" >> ~/.bashrc
>
>
> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
for some reason your env.d/ files don't get sourced on login?
have you checked your environment with 'export'?
What happens, if you don't have a bashrc in ~/ at all?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 11:53 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-07-04 13:19 ` Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-04 14:38 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-04 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 13:19 ` Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-04 14:38 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-04 16:06 ` Alessandro del Gallo
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-04 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Please don't send html-mail.
when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 14:38 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-07-04 16:06 ` Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-04 16:14 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-04 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
>
> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
elwood ~ # su - portage
elwood ~ # whoami
root
elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
elwood ~ #
elwood ~ # export |grep QT
declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct, but
emerge always fails with qt3 programs. (if I don't set it manually)
Is there a wiki that explains step by step how to check portage?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 16:06 ` Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-04 16:14 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-04 16:22 ` Alessandro del Gallo
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-04 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> > when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
>
> elwood ~ # su - portage
> elwood ~ # whoami
> root
>
> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
> elwood ~ #
>
> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
>
>
> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct, but
su -l -s /bin/bash portage
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 16:14 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-07-04 16:22 ` Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-04 17:18 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-04 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
>> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
>>> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
>> elwood ~ # su - portage
>> elwood ~ # whoami
>> root
>>
>> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
>> elwood ~ #
>>
>> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
>> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
>>
>>
>> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct, but
>
> su -l -s /bin/bash portage
>
>
elwood ~ # su -l -s /bin/bash portage
-su: /var/tmp/portage/.bashrc: No such file or directory
portage@elwood ~ $ export|grep QT
declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 16:22 ` Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-04 17:18 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-08 16:17 ` Alessandro del Gallo
[not found] ` <4693A72E.3060707@pic.es>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-04 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> > On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> >> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> >>> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
> >>
> >> elwood ~ # su - portage
> >> elwood ~ # whoami
> >> root
> >>
> >> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
> >> elwood ~ #
> >>
> >> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
> >> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
> >>
> >>
> >> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct, but
> >
> > su -l -s /bin/bash portage
>
> elwood ~ # su -l -s /bin/bash portage
> -su: /var/tmp/portage/.bashrc: No such file or directory
> portage@elwood ~ $ export|grep QT
> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
strange. really strange.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-04 17:18 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
@ 2007-07-08 16:17 ` Alessandro del Gallo
2007-07-09 15:52 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
[not found] ` <4693A72E.3060707@pic.es>
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From: Alessandro del Gallo @ 2007-07-08 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
>> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
>>> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
>>>> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
>>>>> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
>>>> elwood ~ # su - portage
>>>> elwood ~ # whoami
>>>> root
>>>>
>>>> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
>>>> elwood ~ #
>>>>
>>>> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
>>>> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct, but
>>> su -l -s /bin/bash portage
>> elwood ~ # su -l -s /bin/bash portage
>> -su: /var/tmp/portage/.bashrc: No such file or directory
>> portage@elwood ~ $ export|grep QT
>> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
>
> strange. really strange.
>
Hello Hemmann,
Now I have more information about the error,
emerging doxygen I get this
[...]
>>> Compiling source in
/var/tmp/portage/app-doc/doxygen-1.5.2/work/doxygen-1.5.2 ...
* using QTDIR: '/usr/local/qt'.
* using QT LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
* using QT LD_LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
Autodetected platform linux-g++...
Detected Qt via the QTDIR environment variable...
QTDIR is set to /usr/local/qt, but library directory
/usr/local/qt/lib does not exist!
[...]
AND
elwood ~ # ll -R /usr/local/qt
/usr/local/qt:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 30 20:26 bin
/usr/local/qt/bin:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Mar 30 20:26 qmake -> /usr/bin/qmake
elwood ~ #
elwood ~ # ll /usr/qt/3
total 52
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 bin
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 doc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 2 2006 etc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 Jun 28 20:34 include
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jun 28 20:34 lib -> lib64
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 17 19:20 lib32
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 28 20:34 lib64
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 mkspecs
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jun 28 20:34 plugins
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 tools
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 29 08:32 translations
may be a simlyk from /usr/qt/3 to /usr/local/qt ...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
2007-07-08 16:17 ` Alessandro del Gallo
@ 2007-07-09 15:52 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-09 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sonntag, 8. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> > On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> >> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> >>> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> >>>> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> >>>>> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # su - portage
> >>>> elwood ~ # whoami
> >>>> root
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
> >>>> elwood ~ #
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
> >>>> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct,
> >>>> but
> >>>
> >>> su -l -s /bin/bash portage
> >>
> >> elwood ~ # su -l -s /bin/bash portage
> >> -su: /var/tmp/portage/.bashrc: No such file or directory
> >> portage@elwood ~ $ export|grep QT
> >> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
> >
> > strange. really strange.
>
> Hello Hemmann,
> Now I have more information about the error,
> emerging doxygen I get this
>
> [...]
>
> >>> Compiling source in
>
> /var/tmp/portage/app-doc/doxygen-1.5.2/work/doxygen-1.5.2 ...
> * using QTDIR: '/usr/local/qt'.
> * using QT LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
> * using QT LD_LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
> Autodetected platform linux-g++...
> Detected Qt via the QTDIR environment variable...
> QTDIR is set to /usr/local/qt, but library directory
> /usr/local/qt/lib does not exist!
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> may be a simlyk from /usr/qt/3 to /usr/local/qt ...
/usr/local/qt should not exist in the first place - I would (re)move it to a
backup dir and retry.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] QT dir:
[not found] ` <4693A72E.3060707@pic.es>
@ 2007-07-10 15:50 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin @ 2007-07-10 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Dienstag, 10. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> > On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> >> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> >>> On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Alessandro del Gallo wrote:
> >>>> Hemmann, Volker Armin ha scritto:
> >>>>> when you su to portage and do an export, is QTDIR set too?
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # su - portage
> >>>> elwood ~ # whoami
> >>>> root
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # su - portage -c "export"
> >>>> elwood ~ #
> >>>>
> >>>> elwood ~ # export |grep QT
> >>>> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't su - portage. And in root enviroment, the QTDIR is correct,
> >>>> but
> >>>
> >>> su -l -s /bin/bash portage
> >>
> >> elwood ~ # su -l -s /bin/bash portage
> >> -su: /var/tmp/portage/.bashrc: No such file or directory
> >> portage@elwood ~ $ export|grep QT
> >> declare -x QTDIR="/usr/qt/3"
> >
> > strange. really strange.
>
> Hello Hemmann,
> Now I have more information about the error,
> emerging doxygen I get this
>
> [...]
>
> >>> Compiling source in
>
> /var/tmp/portage/app-doc/doxygen-1.5.2/work/doxygen-1.5.2 ...
> * using QTDIR: '/usr/local/qt'.
> * using QT LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
> * using QT LD_LIBRARY_PATH: '/usr/local/qt/lib64:'.
> Autodetected platform linux-g++...
> Detected Qt via the QTDIR environment variable...
> QTDIR is set to /usr/local/qt, but library directory
> /usr/local/qt/lib does not exist!
>
> [...]
>
>
> AND
>
> elwood ~ # ll -R /usr/local/qt
> /usr/local/qt:
> total 4
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 30 20:26 bin
>
> /usr/local/qt/bin:
> total 0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Mar 30 20:26 qmake -> /usr/bin/qmake
> elwood ~ #
>
> elwood ~ # ll /usr/qt/3
> total 52
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 bin
> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 doc
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 2 2006 etc
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 Jun 28 20:34 include
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jun 28 20:34 lib -> lib64
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 17 19:20 lib32
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 28 20:34 lib64
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 mkspecs
> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jun 28 20:34 plugins
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 3 03:02 tools
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 29 08:32 translations
>
>
> may be a simlyk from /usr/qt/3 to /usr/local/qt ...
no, certainly not. If it would be a symlink, all the stuff would be there.
Just remove it, ok? Or move /usr/local/qt somewhere where it can't do any
damage, like /tmp/bak or something like that.
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