From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I5r79-0006v2-An for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:44:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l63MhdIo006268; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:43:39 GMT Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.21]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l63MdORE001471 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:39:24 GMT Received: from poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B4D8207F20 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (poseidon [139.174.2.21]) by poseidon.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4FA207F1F for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de (account wevah [139.174.197.94] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTPSA id 24596726 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:39:23 +0200 From: "Hemmann, Volker Armin" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10707031014l5c52585fo6087c9e4502bf401@mail.gmail.com> <200707031941.34493.tcoulon@decoulon.ch> In-Reply-To: <200707031941.34493.tcoulon@decoulon.ch> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:39:21 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200707040039.21440.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de X-Archives-Salt: c2657617-8747-4c8b-ae71-9cd555c6ea99 X-Archives-Hash: ea4bcfb442886ef804ef44b001f63ee6 On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote: > > Hey Mark, > > > > Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes > > when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I > > have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other > > meta-distro out there? It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the > > meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? The thought of installing the > > latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never > > use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated > > makes me wanna throw up. > > > > - Grant > > I hope I'm not too of-topic. I've never been able to bring friends to try > out Gentoo. Tell them they'll be working for days to get a cli distro > working... if they get there, setting up X is sure to be the end of the > experiment. > > What I mean is: Gentoo is for experimented users, and those who'd like to > become experimented. I consider myself not to be a noob anymore, after 8 > years of using Linux, but my last gentoo install still waits to get > finished. I tried to get sound, and that crashed the nvidia module, and now > I don't have time to cure that. > > Now, on the next partition, I have installed Sabayon. It's bloated OK, it's > not compiled for my machine OK, but I had it up and running in an hour. I > still have to test the idea of installing Sabayon, modifying make.conf and > emerging world to see what happens. > > I think the future of Gentoo could be that: an "easy install" for the mass, > and he opportunity for the geeks to tweak that install or directly go for > the total customisation. > > I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if > the "real" Gentoo users feel it's a treason. no, not treason. Leeches. For using gentoo's rsync-mirrors. But you said it yourself, it is bloated. I do not want bloat. And for your friends - the last two releases have a gnome (argh!) livecd with a (buggy) graphical installer... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list