Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

["Hemmann, Volker Armin" <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>]

On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote:
> > Hey Mark,
> >
> > Thanks for the insight.  I hope it never happens, but if the day comes
> > when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I
> > have to find a new distro, where will I go?  Is Debian the only other
> > meta-distro out there?  It's not exactly thriving is it?  Is the
> > meta-distro concept perhaps flawed?  The thought of installing the
> > latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never
> > use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated
> > makes me wanna throw up.
> >
> > - Grant
>
> I hope I'm not too of-topic. I've never been able to bring friends to try
> out Gentoo. Tell them they'll be working for days to get a cli distro
> working... if they get there, setting up X is sure to be the end of the
> experiment.
>
> What I mean is: Gentoo is for experimented users, and those who'd like to
> become experimented. I consider myself not to be a noob anymore, after 8
> years of using Linux, but my last gentoo install still waits to get
> finished. I tried to get sound, and that crashed the nvidia module, and now
> I don't have time to cure that.
>
> Now, on the next partition, I have installed Sabayon. It's bloated OK, it's
> not compiled for my machine OK, but I had it up and running in an hour. I
> still have to test the idea of installing Sabayon, modifying make.conf and
> emerging world to see what happens.
>
> I think the future of Gentoo could be that: an "easy install" for the mass,
> and he opportunity for the geeks to tweak that install or directly go for
> the total customisation.
>
> I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if
> the "real" Gentoo users feel it's a treason.

no, not treason. Leeches. For using gentoo's rsync-mirrors.

But you said it yourself, it is bloated. I do not want bloat.

And for your friends - the last two releases have a gnome (argh!) livecd with 
a (buggy) graphical installer...
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