From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I5nKG-0007WG-4Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:42:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l63IetJ9032696; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:40:55 GMT Received: from node-8.minx.net.uk (node-8.186k.co.uk [212.85.249.138]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l63IaP2q027786 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:36:26 GMT Received: from [83.151.212.22] (helo=localhost) by node-8.minx.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I5nFH-0007x8-1w for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:37:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 20:36:58 +0100 From: Paul Gibbons To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) Message-ID: <20070703203658.318e8728@localhost> In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com> References: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com> Organization: PKAMI X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MINX-Orig-IP: 83.151.212.22 X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-Spam-Level: -- X-Archives-Salt: 885905be-ac27-4479-8825-99a86f7558b9 X-Archives-Hash: 7db9a7fef1bff8beb496a900481815fd On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:07:24 -0700 Grant wrote: > In December 2006 I started a thread titled "Is Gentoo Healthy?" in > which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the > decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the > remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. > > Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter > hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be > just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up > to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo > is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and > potential are being stunted by the "we don't need them" attitude which > perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. > > Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a > short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo > no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. > Car mechanics all start as car drivers. > > - Grant As an experience Windows programmer who was moving into Linux last summer I started off with Ubuntu. The ease with which it installed and updated itself was a big surprise and pleasure. But then as my knowledge grew I decided to use a more demanding distro which in my case would allow me to learn more about how a Linux system works; and so I chose gentoo. Sure there was a hurdle of a couple of days to get it installed but I have not come up against any problems apart from my own lack of experience. All in all the choice was a good one. Gentoo appears to be very stable and the e-builds seem to be quite up to date - although I have to use the ~amd64 keyword on most packages as x64 support lags behind x86. One problem I have however is knowing how to choose between all the different ways of doing things. I recently tried to get the interface to my Kodak camera working and went down several blind alleys before discovering that each actual alley was no longer the best ways of doing things due to changes in the kernel or new tools. So sure on the surface things do not appear to be changing much in gentoo but that does not mean it does not work - just that it is stable. Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list