[gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Willie Wong]

Hi List, 

  Sorry if this is a stupid question: I've never actually owned a
  device using a MicroSD card--until now. I have for myself a Motorola
  KRZR K1 phone, and I am thinking of buying a MicroSD card so I can
  transfer music/pictures between the phone and my laptop. To do that,
  I'll also need a card reader for the MicroSD card. 

  I'm considering the SanDisk MobileMate SD+ 5-in-1 reader, partly
  because I've heard (through the grapevines) that it works under
  Ubuntu and Suse pretty much just plug and play. 

  Does anyone have any experience with this device? Or any other card
  readers? Caveats and suggestions about using card readers with
  gentoo will be appreciated. Do devices like those need any kernel
  voodoo to work, or do they just function as USB mass storage
  devices? 

  Being completely clueless, any suggestion is welcome. 

Thanks in advance, 

Willie
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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 1. Juli 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>   Sorry if this is a stupid question: I've never actually owned a
>   device using a MicroSD card--until now. I have for myself a Motorola
>   KRZR K1 phone, and I am thinking of buying a MicroSD card so I can
>   transfer music/pictures between the phone and my laptop. To do that,
>   I'll also need a card reader for the MicroSD card.

why? Is the KRZR so much worse than a RAZR?

With a RAZR you just connect the phone to the computer with the usb cable, and 
you can transfer the data. No need for a card reader.

>
>   I'm considering the SanDisk MobileMate SD+ 5-in-1 reader, partly
>   because I've heard (through the grapevines) that it works under
>   Ubuntu and Suse pretty much just plug and play.

all card readers work 'plug and play'. I have a noname 30-in-1 cardreader I 
bought a long time ago for 5euros, that is 'plug and play',


>
>   Does anyone have any experience with this device? Or any other card
>   readers? Caveats and suggestions about using card readers with
>   gentoo will be appreciated. Do devices like those need any kernel
>   voodoo to work, or do they just function as USB mass storage
>   devices?

they are just usb-mass-storage devices.

You'll need the 'probe all luns' option under scsi:

[27393.255889] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[27393.255989] scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[27393.256050] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[27393.256053] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[27393.256229] usb-storage: device found at 2
[27393.256232] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[27398.248597] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  IC1210        CF 1.9C 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[27398.249361] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb
[27398.249445] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[27398.250709] scsi 1:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Generic  IC1210        MS 1.9C 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[27398.251725] sd 1:0:0:1: Attached scsi removable disk sdc
[27398.251794] sd 1:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[27398.425327] scsi 1:0:0:2: Direct-Access     Generic  IC1210    MMC/SD 1.9C 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[27398.426313] SCSI device sdd: 122624 512-byte hdwr sectors (63 MB)
[27398.427558] sdd: Write Protect is off
[27398.427561] sdd: Mode Sense: 4b 00 00 08
[27398.427563] sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
[27398.430069] SCSI device sdd: 122624 512-byte hdwr sectors (63 MB)
[27398.431183] sdd: Write Protect is off
[27398.431187] sdd: Mode Sense: 4b 00 00 08
[27398.431201] sdd: assuming drive cache: write through
[27398.431213]  sdd: sdd1
[27398.432973] sd 1:0:0:2: Attached scsi removable disk sdd
[27398.433193] sd 1:0:0:2: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[27398.434438] scsi 1:0:0:3: Direct-Access     Generic  IC1210        SM 1.9C 
PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[27398.435940] sd 1:0:0:3: Attached scsi removable disk sde
[27398.436177] sd 1:0:0:3: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0
[27398.436393] usb-storage: device scan complete

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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:31:29AM +0200, Penguin Lover Hemmann, Volker Armin squawked:
> On Sonntag, 1. Juli 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
> why? Is the KRZR so much worse than a RAZR?
> 
> With a RAZR you just connect the phone to the computer with the usb cable, and 
> you can transfer the data. No need for a card reader.
> 

Oh? My inferior googling skills didn't show whether that is possible
or not; perhaps I should give it a try. 

> they are just usb-mass-storage devices.

Much thanks for the information.

> 
> You'll need the 'probe all luns' option under scsi:
> 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 1. Juli 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:31:29AM +0200, Penguin Lover Hemmann, Volker 
Armin squawked:
> > On Sonntag, 1. Juli 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
> > why? Is the KRZR so much worse than a RAZR?
> >
> > With a RAZR you just connect the phone to the computer with the usb
> > cable, and you can transfer the data. No need for a card reader.
>
> Oh? My inferior googling skills didn't sho> w whether that is possible 
> or not; perhaps I should give it a try.
>

with the RAZR (hopefully the KRZR is similar) you have to go into Preferences 
(or setup or however it is called in english), connection, usb-setup and 
set 'standard connection' to 'memory card' - with 'data/fax connection' the 
telephone will behave like an usb modem - needing the cdc-acm-driver and 
accessing the memory won't work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:31:29AM +0200, Penguin Lover Hemmann, Volker Armin squawked:
> why? Is the KRZR so much worse than a RAZR?
> 
> With a RAZR you just connect the phone to the computer with the usb cable, and 
> you can transfer the data. No need for a card reader.
> 

Perhaps, but I am not quite sure. I'll have to get a MicroSD card and
try again. Currently (without the SD card) when I plug in my phone
from the USB cable it detects only as a full speed USB device and
not a high speed USB2 device as the user manual for the phone
suggested that it should. (And yes, this is the same port from which I
just unplugged my external harddrive which is read as a USB2 device.)

One possibility is that the phone won't be detected as a mass storage
device until I put in a SD card, despite it having some 20M internal
memory. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 1. Juli 2007, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:31:29AM +0200, Penguin Lover Hemmann, Volker 
Armin squawked:
> > why? Is the KRZR so much worse than a RAZR?
> >
> > With a RAZR you just connect the phone to the computer with the usb
> > cable, and you can transfer the data. No need for a card reader.
>
> Perhaps, but I am not quite sure. I'll have to get a MicroSD card and
> try again. Currently (without the SD card) when I plug in my phone
> from the USB cable it detects only as a full speed USB device and
> not a high speed USB2 device as the user manual for the phone
> suggested that it should. (And yes, this is the same port from which I
> just unplugged my external harddrive which is read as a USB2 device.)
>
> One possibility is that the phone won't be detected as a mass storage
> device until I put in a SD card, despite it having some 20M internal
> memory.
>

well, with the RAZR you can't access the internal memory. Only the micro-sd 
card....
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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate?

[Willie Wong]

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 05:58:35AM +0200, Penguin Lover Hemmann, Volker Armin squawked:
> with the RAZR (hopefully the KRZR is similar) you have to go into Preferences 
> (or setup or however it is called in english), connection, usb-setup and 
> set 'standard connection' to 'memory card' - with 'data/fax connection' the 
> telephone will behave like an usb modem - needing the cdc-acm-driver and 
> accessing the memory won't work.

I doubt Motorola would remove functionality from KRZR that was in the
RAZR, but, I wouldn't put it above Verizon to cripple the phone. I
blame Verizon for such a configuration option not existing on my
phone. :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] SanDisk MobileMate [solved in part]

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 11:11:08PM -0400, Penguin Lover Willie Wong squawked:
>   Sorry if this is a stupid question: I've never actually owned a
>   device using a MicroSD card--until now. I have for myself a Motorola
>   KRZR K1 phone, and I am thinking of buying a MicroSD card so I can
>   transfer music/pictures between the phone and my laptop. To do that,
>   I'll also need a card reader for the MicroSD card. 

So the Sandisk MobileMate works like a charm, just like a normal USB
mass storage device. Now I just need to go and write a udev rule for
it. 

The phone, on the other hand, does not 'work' when I just plugged it
directly into the USB port. The kernel says:

usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci-hcd and address 3
usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

catting /proc/bus/usb/devices shows that no driver is associated to
the Motorola KRZR K1m. For now I am content with copying files by
removing the microSD card and reading it in the card reader, but I
will welcome any ideas that would help me avoid that cumbersome step. 

Thanks

W
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