[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Mike Edenfield]

I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage and notice that a 
couple of packages routinely fail their test phases.  Is this expected 
behavior?  More specifically, should I file bug reports if I see such 
failures?  These are unstable packages (so far) and if this will help 
get them out of ~x86 I'll gladly figure out what failed and file reports.

--Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Tuesday 26 June 2007, Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org> wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?':
> I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage

I use paludis,. which does testing by default, and I've seen a number of 
packages fail tests.  I simply mask those specific versions.  Last time I 
checked, bug reports coming from alternative package manager users were 
closed "fairly quickly".  Since you are using portage, your bugs may get a 
little more attention, but I think the general consensus is that "tests 
aren't important" so they generally get dropped to low priority, ignored 
until the next release, then closed with a "refile if it affects the 
current release" message.

Then again, perhaps I'm just feeling a bit jaded toward the Gentoo 
developers this morning.  <grumpy/>

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Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 26 June 2007 17:15:45 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > '[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?':
> > I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage

It varies quite a bit between packages and maintainers. If you are sure there 
doesn't exist a bug for those packages already then I think it's ok to file 
some bugs about it. Don't file too many at once but wait and see what happens 
with the first reports before filing more. I.e. unless of course you have a 
fix. :)

> I use paludis,. which does testing by default, and I've seen a number of
> packages fail tests.  I simply mask those specific versions.

So I guess you've masked packages such as binutils, autoconf and automake? Who 
needs those anyway? *grin* ;)

> Last time I checked, bug reports coming from alternative package manager
> users were closed "fairly quickly".

It depends very much on who the maintainer is. Some maintainers do support 
Paludis users.. The official stance is, however, that filing bugs using 
Paludis is currently discouraged.

> Since you are using portage, your bugs may get a little more attention, but
> I think the general consensus is that "tests aren't important" so they
> generally get dropped to low priority, ignored until the next release, then
> closed with a "refile if it affects the current release" message.

Test failures are much more important if they are new. I.e. if the previous 
release didn't fail...

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Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Dienstag, 26. Juni 2007, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007, Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org> wrote
>
> about '[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?':
> > I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage
>
> I use paludis,. which does testing by default, and I've seen a number of
> packages fail tests.

wow, paludis really does suck monkey balls.
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Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Dienstag, 26. Juni 2007, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage and notice that a
> couple of packages routinely fail their test phases.  Is this expected
> behavior?  More specifically, should I file bug reports if I see such
> failures?  These are unstable packages (so far) and if this will help
> get them out of ~x86 I'll gladly figure out what failed and file reports.
>

a) don't use test. It is just a waste of time. For some packages 'test' takes 
way more time than compiling and installing.

b) don't be scared - a lot of packages have failing tests - for some tests it 
is even the right thing when they fail, others are just broken in the 
test-department. As a rule of thumb: for everything outside of sci-* test is 
a useless waste of time...
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Re: [gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Tuesday 26 June 2007 20:48:35 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > '[gentoo-user] FEATURES="test" -- Should this work?':
> > > I recently enabled the "test" feature on Portage
> >
> > I use paludis,. which does testing by default, and I've seen a number of
> > packages fail tests.
>
> wow, paludis really does suck monkey balls.

It's not like you can't disable it...

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