[gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Alan McKinnon]

Hi all,

My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All those who wish 
kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked to voice their 
objections now. 

I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no longer 
access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends to fix 
this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also have two 
other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can invariably 
get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.

Anyone know of a solution? I have a perfectly normal install:

nazgul ~ # eix kmail
[I] kde-base/kmail
     Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 3.5.5-r2 (~)3.5.6-r1 (~)
3.5.6-r2 (~)3.5.6-r3 (~)3.5.7
     Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(00:45:57 06/04/07)(-arts 
crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KMail is the email component of Kontact, the 
integrated personal information manager of KDE.

nazgul ~ # eix kontact
[I] kde-base/kontact
     Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 (~)3.5.6 (~)3.5.7
     Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(21:23:12 06/04/07)
(-arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KDE personal information manager


alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Mick]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 14:34, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All those who wish
> kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked to voice their
> objections now.
>
> I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no longer
> access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends to fix
> this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also have two
> other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can invariably
> get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.
>
> Anyone know of a solution? I have a perfectly normal install:
>
> nazgul ~ # eix kmail
> [I] kde-base/kmail
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5-r1 3.5.5-r2 (~)3.5.6-r1 (~)
> 3.5.6-r2 (~)3.5.6-r3 (~)3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(00:45:57 06/04/07)(-arts
> crypt -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KMail is the email component of Kontact, the
> integrated personal information manager of KDE.
>
> nazgul ~ # eix kontact
> [I] kde-base/kontact
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 (~)3.5.6 (~)3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.7(3.5)(21:23:12 06/04/07)
> (-arts -debug -elibc_FreeBSD kdeenablefinal -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KDE personal information manager

I am using the stable kontact/kmail packages and do not have any problem 
accessing my gmail account.  Assuming that yours is correctly configured and 
there are no network problems, I can only point the finger at the testing 
versions you are running.

BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems accessing Gmail, which I 
attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a couple of days and 
since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.

It may be worth trying openssl to connect to Gmail on the command line to 
troubleshoot it, if  you are still getting failures to connect.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 22 June 2007, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 14:34, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Hi all,
[snip]
> > I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no longer
> > access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends to fix
> > this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also have
> > two other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can
> > invariably get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.

[snip]

> I am using the stable kontact/kmail packages and do not have any
> problem accessing my gmail account.  Assuming that yours is correctly
> configured and there are no network problems, I can only point the
> finger at the testing versions you are running.

<sigh> I was afraid of that...

> BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems accessing Gmail,
> which I attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a couple
> of days and since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.

Yes, I ran into that too, and the difference was that I couldn;t get 
there in a browser either, but i'ts different this time

> It may be worth trying openssl to connect to Gmail on the command
> line to troubleshoot it, if  you are still getting failures to
> connect.

Good, idea, I hadn't though of that.
Thanks

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Zsitvai János]

Hello, 

This may sound like overkill, but I've found that the most reliable set-up is to simply configure fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, dovecot and postfix properly, and just use whatever client you prefer as an IMAP reader. I used to move between a couple of clients, but now I'm pretty much settled on KMail and Gnus.

If everything else is configured properly, you'll never face something like this again. It's well worth the one-time investment.

János Zsitvai
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Freitag, 22. Juni 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All those who wish
> kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked to voice their
> objections now.
>
> I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no longer
> access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends to fix
> this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also have two
> other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can invariably
> get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.

don't have kmail open for days?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 22 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Freitag, 22. Juni 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My patience with kmail is rapidly coming to an end. All those who
> > wish kmail to survive another week on my machine are asked to voice
> > their objections now.
> >
> > I use it within kontact, and every second day or so I can no longer
> > access my gmail account using pop3. 'killall kio_pop3' tends to fix
> > this so I assume it's some kind of locking issue. But I also have
> > two other pop3 accounts where this does not happen, and I can
> > invariably get to gmail in a browser when kmail locks up.
>
> don't have kmail open for days?

I'd love to, but don't get a chance to try - I manage about 8 hours max 
at a stretch

:-)

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Crayon Shin Chan]

On Friday 22 June 2007 21:43, Mick wrote:

> BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems accessing Gmail, which
> I attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a couple of days
> and since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.

I had a similar problem about a month or so ago. Kmail kept saying the 
password was incorrect. Funny thing was that if I go into the config and 
re-enter the password then kmail + gmail would be fine until kmail is 
restarted and then I have to re-enter the password again. However after a 
while (about a week) this odd behaviour stopped and now kmail is behaving 
properly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Dale]

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Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 21:43, Mick wrote:
>
>   
>> BTW, a couple of weeks ago I *did* have problems accessing Gmail, which
>> I attributed to the gmail pop server.  It only lasted a couple of days
>> and since then popping Gmail has been trouble free.
>>     
>
> I had a similar problem about a month or so ago. Kmail kept saying the 
> password was incorrect. Funny thing was that if I go into the config and 
> re-enter the password then kmail + gmail would be fine until kmail is 
> restarted and then I have to re-enter the password again. However after a 
> while (about a week) this odd behaviour stopped and now kmail is behaving 
> properly.
>
>   

Little off topic but my Kopete does that too.  Works fine until I log
out of KDE then I have to reenter my password.  Makes me wonder.  ?? 
These related somehow??

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Uwe Thiem]

On 22 June 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> > don't have kmail open for days?
>
> I'd love to, but don't get a chance to try - I manage about 8 hours max
> at a stretch

???

I usually have kmail open for days or even weeks without any problems. Well, I 
don't use gmail. ;-)

Uwe 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Crayon Shin Chan]

On Saturday 23 June 2007 03:04, Dale wrote:

> Little off topic but my Kopete does that too.  Works fine until I log
> out of KDE then I have to reenter my password.  Makes me wonder.  ??
> These related somehow??

No idea. But it's odd that out of my 15 pop/imap accounts only the gmail 
one had that behaviour.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems accessing gmail with pop3 using kmail/kontact

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 22 June 2007, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 22 June 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Friday 22 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > > don't have kmail open for days?
> >
> > I'd love to, but don't get a chance to try - I manage about 8 hours
> > max at a stretch
>
> ???
>
> I usually have kmail open for days or even weeks without any
> problems. Well, I don't use gmail. ;-)

Not kmail's fault. A highly temperamental wm instead - e17 - cvs synced 
and recompiled almost daily. On a production machine. That belongs to 
my employer. Who expects me to get work done.

Yeah, I know, I DO have a screw loose upstairs. 3 actually

:-)


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