[gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Thierry de Coulon]

Hello,

I've managed to emerge the gentoo base, X and KDE and all are running fine. My 
last problem is sound. After several attemps (with the kernel ALSA module and 
ALSA-driver), I've got my SB Live correctly loaded with ALSA Driver - at 
least there is no error message. I didn't load any module explicitely. The 
system loads emu10K1-gp

However, I have no sound. The KDE control center does show options for midi on 
the SB Live 5.1, I've unmuted everything I could in alsamixer, kmix shows 
there is a sound device there.

But kinfocenter says there is no information about the sound device, and when 
I start Amarok,  it says there is "no suitable demux plugin".

Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did an 
emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual flags.

What am I missing?

Thierry

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Elias Probst]

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On Tuesday 19 June 2007 19:20:22 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did
> an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual
> flags.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thierry

IMHO aRts isn't necessary any longer since there is dmix... it causes more 
pain than it helps.

Disable the arts useflag and remerge every affected package:
emerge -avN world

Go to:
-> KDE Controlcenter
-> Sound & Multimedia
-> Sound-System
Uncheck the box "[x] Enable the sound system"

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Abhay Kedia]

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On Tuesday 19 Jun 2007 10:50:22 pm Thierry de Coulon wrote:
>
> What am I missing?
>
Try logging out of KDE and get into a virtual console session. From there try 
to play a sound file using alsaplayer or play command may be? That will clear 
out any doubts of aRts playing spoil sport. If you don't get any sound from 
there as well, then try to restart alsasound and look for any error msgs in 
dmesg.

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Abhay

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Roy Wright]

Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> However, I have no sound...
>
> What am I missing?
>   

While not gentoo specific, this page:

  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems

has some good sound debugging info that helped me set up a
kubuntu system.  I did try most of the commands on my working
gentoo system while debugging to give myself a reference.

FYI, my problem was getting the S/PDIF optical output working,
turned out the analog output was /dev/dsp while the digital output
was /dev/dsp1.

HTH,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
> did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
> actual flags.
>
> What am I missing?

You are not missing anything, you have something too much.

Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world

Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)

Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
ever could, and more

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Randy Barlow]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> You are not missing anything, you have something too much.
> 
> Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world
> 
> Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)
> 
> Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
> to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
> project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
> ever could, and more

I've also solved a lot of my problems by disabling the arts sound system
in KDE and just using straight up ALSA.  I think back in the days of OSS
something like arts or esd was really needed since OSS only allowed one
process to use it at once, but now arts really gets in the way.  I was
recently trying to do some recording and couldn't for the life of me get
the recording software (Audacity) to both play what I've recorded and
record at the same time.  Once I turned off arts the program Just Worked
(TM).  YMMV :)

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mercy, but now you have received mercy. ~1 Peter 2:9-10

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
>   
>> Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
>> did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
>> actual flags.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>     
>
> You are not missing anything, you have something too much.
>
> Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world
>
> Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)
>
> Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
> to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
> project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
> ever could, and more
>
> alan
>
>   

Well, wanting to be up with the times, I removed the arts USE flag and
did a emerge -uvDN world.  12 hours later the update is done.  I have no
sound where before it was working fine.  I can play a CD.  I get no
sound from anything else.  Is it possible that I NEED arts for mine to work?

Any ideas?

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Tuesday 19 June 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
>>   
>>> Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I
>>> did an emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the
>>> actual flags.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>     
>>
>> You are not missing anything, you have something too much.
>>
>> Remove arts from your USE, from package.use and emerge -uND world
>>
>> Then start fault finding from the start all over again :-)
>>
>> Seriously, that utter piece of trash called arts has caused more grief 
>> to KDE than just about anything else ever written for the entire 
>> project. And you don't need it anymore - alsa now does everything arts 
>> ever could, and more
>>
>> alan
>>
>>   
>
> Well, wanting to be up with the times, I removed the arts USE flag and
> did a emerge -uvDN world.  12 hours later the update is done.  I have
> no sound where before it was working fine.  I can play a CD.  I get no
> sound from anything else.  Is it possible that I NEED arts for mine to
> work?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)

I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package that
failed to emerge.  Here is the error:

> /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile
> i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..
> -I/usr/kde/3.5/include/arts -I/usr/kde/3.5/include -I/usr/qt/3/include
> -I.  -I//usr/include/db4.3  -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT 
> -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE
> -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG
> -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer
> -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor
> -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE
> -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION  -c
> -o kpercentspinbox.lo kpercentspinbox.cpp
> /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link
> i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
> -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall
> -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2
> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute
> -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common
> -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT
> -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION   -Wl,-z,now -o noatunwakeup.la -rpath
> /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib     -module
> -avoid-version -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined
> -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined wakeup.lo kminutespinbox.lo
> kpercentspinbox.lo -lkio -lnoatun -lm
> grep: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or directory
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or
> directory
> libtool: link: `/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la' is not a valid libtool
> archive
> make[3]: *** [noatunwakeup.la] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins/alarm'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 failed.
> Call stack:
>   ebuild.sh, line 1629:   Called dyn_compile
>   ebuild.sh, line 975:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
>   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
>   noatun-plugins-3.5.7.ebuild, line 39:   Called kde-meta_src_compile
>   kde-meta.eclass, line 380:   Called kde_src_compile
>   kde.eclass, line 170:   Called kde_src_compile 'all'
>   kde.eclass, line 340:   Called kde_src_compile 'myconf' 'configure'
> 'make'
>   kde.eclass, line 336:   Called die
>
> !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
> stack if relevant.
> !!! A complete build log is located at
> '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-plugins-3.5.7:20070621-192014.log'.
>
> root@smoker / #

Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> <snip>
> I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package
> that failed to emerge.  Here is the error:
>
>> <snip>
>
> Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

Well, this appears to be making a bigger mess than it will fix.  After
going around and around with this, I get this now:

>  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
>  * The package kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 you're trying to merge requires aRTs.
>  * However, kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 was compiled with arts flag disabled.
>  *
>  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
>  * To build this package you have to recompile
>  * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 with this arts use flag enabled.
>
> !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 failed.
> Call stack:
>   ebuild.sh, line 1645:   Called dyn_setup
>   ebuild.sh, line 706:   Called qa_call 'pkg_setup'
>   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called pkg_setup
>   ebuild.sh, line 1314:   Called kde_pkg_setup
>   kde.eclass, line 68:   Called die
>
> !!! kdelibs missing arts
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
> stack if relevant.
> !!! A complete build log is located at
> '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-3.5.7:20070622-004741.log'.
>
> root@smoker / #

Looks like KDE requires arts flag to be set.  Anybody know how to get
around this?  If not, I'm going back to arts, that way I will have some
sound.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Squall Liu]

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At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver .check it
by

squall@Think_Squall_Caro ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                      HDA NVidia at 0xf5000000 irq 17

If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
alsa-driver

if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to add your
sound card flag in your make.conf

ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
>

then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA

Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ......

I'm using it very well ............




On 6/22/07, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>  Dale wrote:
>
> <snip>
> I was doing some more checking around.  I forgot about this package that
> failed to emerge.  Here is the error:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Looks like it is looking for arts still.  How do I get this to work?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>
> Well, this appears to be making a bigger mess than it will fix.  After
> going around and around with this, I get this now:
>
>  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
>  * The package kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 you're trying to merge requires aRTs.
>  * However, kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 was compiled with arts flag disabled.
>  *
>  * QA Notice: USE Flag 'arts' not in IUSE for kde-base/noatun-3.5.7
>  * To build this package you have to recompile
>  * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7 with this arts use flag enabled.
>
> !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.5.7 failed.
> Call stack:
>   ebuild.sh, line 1645:   Called dyn_setup
>   ebuild.sh, line 706:   Called qa_call 'pkg_setup'
>   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called pkg_setup
>   ebuild.sh, line 1314:   Called kde_pkg_setup
>   kde.eclass, line 68:   Called die
>
> !!! kdelibs missing arts
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
> if relevant.
> !!! A complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/kde-base:
> noatun-3.5.7:20070622-004741.log'.
>
> root@smoker / #
>
>
> Looks like KDE requires arts flag to be set.  Anybody know how to get
> around this?  If not, I'm going back to arts, that way I will have some
> sound.  :/
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Squall Liu wrote:
> At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver
> .check it by
>
>     squall@Think_Squall_Caro ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>      0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
>                           HDA NVidia at 0xf5000000 irq 17
>
> If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
> alsa-driver
>
> if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to add
> your sound card flag in your make.conf
>
>     ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
>
>
> then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA
>
> Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ......
>
> I'm using it very well ............
>
>

That sounds like a plan.  < Dale goes to work on this > 

Back later.  Thanks for the link.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> Squall Liu wrote:
>> At the very first , make sure you have load your sound card driver
>> .check it by
>>
>>     squall@Think_Squall_Caro ~ $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>>      0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
>>                           HDA NVidia at 0xf5000000 irq 17
>>
>> If you get no card found , reconfigure your kernel or install your
>> alsa-driver
>>
>> if you want to install the alsa-driver by emerge , don't forget to
>> add your sound card flag in your make.conf
>>
>>     ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
>>
>>
>> then you can flow this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA
>>
>> Personal idea , I recommend you to use ALSA to instead of arts ......
>>
>> I'm using it very well ............
>>
>>
>
> That sounds like a plan.  < Dale goes to work on this > 
>
> Back later.  Thanks for the link.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
on that? 

I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to
find that out:

> root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
> dale     31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?        S    21:39   0:00
> /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
> 3 -f
> root     31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0    R+   21:40   0:00 grep
> --colour=auto arts
> root@smoker / #

Now keep in mind that I can not get this to emerge without arts in the
USE line and kdelibs having the arts USE flag too.  Here is the error:

> /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link
> i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
> -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall
> -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O2
> -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute
> -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common
> -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT
> -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION   -Wl,-z,now -o noatunwakeup.la -rpath
> /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3 -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib     -module
> -avoid-version -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined
> -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined wakeup.lo kminutespinbox.lo
> kpercentspinbox.lo -lkio -lnoatun -lm
> grep: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or directory
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la: No such file or
> directory
> libtool: link: `/usr/kde/3.5/lib/libartskde.la' is not a valid libtool
> archive
> make[3]: *** [noatunwakeup.la] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins/alarm'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/noatun-plugins'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.7'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 failed.
> Call stack:
>   ebuild.sh, line 1629:   Called dyn_compile
>   ebuild.sh, line 975:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
>   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
>   noatun-plugins-3.5.7.ebuild, line 39:   Called kde-meta_src_compile
>   kde-meta.eclass, line 380:   Called kde_src_compile
>   kde.eclass, line 170:   Called kde_src_compile 'all'
>   kde.eclass, line 340:   Called kde_src_compile 'myconf' 'configure'
> 'make'
>   kde.eclass, line 336:   Called die
>
> !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
> stack if relevant.
> !!! A complete build log is located at
> '/var/log/portage/kde-base:noatun-plugins-3.5.7:20070622-024505.log'.
>
> root@smoker / #

I think it uses noatun to play the sounds.  I got it to work with what I
currently have by telling it to use mplayer to play the sounds.  I would
like to go back to the old way but without arts if someone can tell me
how to get around this little boo boo.

That arts is starting to look pretty good right about now.  o_O

emerge --info just in case someone see something I missed:

> root@smoker / # emerge --info
> Portage 2.1.3_rc4 (default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
> glibc-2.5-r3, 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686)
> =================================================================
> System uname: 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
> Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
> Timestamp of tree: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:50:01 +0000
> distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port
> 3632) [disabled]
> ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
> dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.32
> dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r4
> dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
> dev-util/ccache:     2.4-r7
> sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.17
> sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
> sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2,
> 1.10
> sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
> sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
> sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
> virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r2
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> AUTOCLEAN="yes"
> CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
> /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
> CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
> /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
> CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
> DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> FEATURES="buildpkg ccache distlocks fixpackages metadata-transfer
> parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans"
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="<< SNIP  >>"
> LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,now"
> LINGUAS="en"
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
> PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS="--timeout=600"
> PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
> --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats
> --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
> --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
> PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
> PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
> SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> USE="3dnow X acl acpi alsa amd artswrappersuid automount berkdb
> bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 cairo cddb cdr chroot cli cracklib
> crypt cups dbus doc dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd exif
> fam fdftk fortran gaim gcj gdbm gif gimp gimpprint gkrellm gphoto2 gpm
> gstreamer gtk hal hbci iconv ipv6 isdnlog java javascript jbig jpeg
> jpeg2k justify kde ldap libg++ logrotate mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg
> mudflap ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx ogg opengl openmp
> pam pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime readline
> realmedia reflection scanner sdl seamonkey session spell spl sqlite
> sse ssl syslog tcl tcpd tiff tk truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts
> udev unicode usb vorbis win32codecs wma wmf wmp x86 xml xorg xprint xv
> yahoo zlib" ALSA_CARDS="emu10k1" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym
> copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa
> lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm
> softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux"
> LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb
> ncurses text" LINGUAS="en" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
> Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL,
> PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY
>
> root@smoker / # 



Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Elias Probst]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 04:53:36 Dale wrote:
> Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
> never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
> respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
> while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
> on that?
>
> I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to
>
> find that out:
> > root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
> > dale     31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?        S    21:39   0:00
> > /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
> > 3 -f
> > root     31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0    R+   21:40   0:00 grep
> > --colour=auto arts
> > root@smoker / #

Go to:
-> KDE Controlcenter
-> Sound & Multimedia
-> Sound-System
Uncheck the box "[x] Enable the sound system"

If artsd is still running, kill the process.

> I think it uses noatun to play the sounds.  I got it to work with what I
> currently have by telling it to use mplayer to play the sounds.  I would
> like to go back to the old way but without arts if someone can tell me
> how to get around this little boo boo.
>

I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix as 
backend which is able using dmix devices.

Regards, Elias P.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Elias Probst wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 04:53:36 Dale wrote:
>   
>> Well, I read through the how to, I had all that done already, I just
>> never had removed the arts USE flag.  The sounds works but it is slow to
>> respond and sometimes it just doesn't catch up at all.  This is mostly
>> while switching desktops or something that I do pretty quick.  Any ideas
>> on that?
>>
>> I think some of it may be that arts is still running.  I did this to
>>
>> find that out:
>>     
>>> root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
>>> dale     31062  0.3  0.5  10784  6176 ?        S    21:39   0:00
>>> /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
>>> 3 -f
>>> root     31093  0.0  0.0   1656   472 pts/0    R+   21:40   0:00 grep
>>> --colour=auto arts
>>> root@smoker / #
>>>       
>
> Go to:
> -> KDE Controlcenter
> -> Sound & Multimedia
> -> Sound-System
> Uncheck the box "[x] Enable the sound system"
>
> If artsd is still running, kill the process.
>   

OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
running again plus a new one.

> root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
> dale     15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?        S    07:08   0:00
> kcmshell [kdeinit] arts     
> dale     15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?        Sl   07:08   0:00
> /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
> 3 -f
> root     15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6    R+   07:08   0:00 grep
> --colour=auto arts
> root@smoker / #


>
> I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
> There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix as 
> backend which is able using dmix devices.
>
> Regards, Elias P.
>   

I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
something.  See this:

> root@smoker / # equery depends kdemultimedia
> [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
> kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
> root@smoker / #

For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
don't work at all.

I don't know what is going on but it was working better before.  I just
don't want to put the arts flag back and reemerge all that stuff again.

Ideas??  I'm fresh out.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alex Schuster]

Dale writes:

> Elias Probst wrote:
> > Go to:
> > -> KDE Controlcenter
> > -> Sound & Multimedia
> > -> Sound-System
> > Uncheck the box "[x] Enable the sound system"
> >
> > If artsd is still running, kill the process.
>
> OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
> went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
> running again plus a new one.

Strange. When I have "Enable the sound system" disabled, the whole dialog 
becomes insensitive, and I cannot push the test sound button.

Have a look at the next menu item, system messages or something. Look at 
the bottom right, playback settings (or s.th. like that depending on your 
localization). Uncheck the first entry "use KDE sound system", and 
instead use /usr/bin/playsound as external player (emerge 
media-libs/sdl-sound for that). Other players might work as well.

> > I wouldn't use noatun. It's outdated, crappy, ugly and uses aRts ;-)
> > There are many other good players like Amarok. It uses xine or Helix
> > as backend which is able using dmix devices.

> I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
> something.  See this:
> > root@smoker / # equery depends kdemultimedia
> > [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
> > kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
> > root@smoker / #

Well, noatun for sure depends on kdemultimedia, but it is not needed by 
kdemultimedia. What does "equery depends noatun" give? I get an empty 
list.
And what about "equery depends arts"? It should list a lot of packages. 
Are there some which do not have the "arts?" entry in it, besides noatun?

> For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
> no idea why.

Probably noatun needs arts, and you still have it running. Maybe noatun 
depends on noatun-plugins which you need to unmerge?

> Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to 
> emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
> earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.

It was noatun-plugins. Remove it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Mick]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 13:20, Dale wrote:

> OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
> went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
> running again plus a new one.
>
> > root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
> > dale     15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?        S    07:08   0:00
> > kcmshell [kdeinit] arts
> > dale     15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?        Sl   07:08   0:00
> > /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
> > 3 -f
> > root     15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6    R+   07:08   0:00 grep
> > --colour=auto arts
> > root@smoker / #
> >
> I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
>
> something.  See this:
> > root@smoker / # equery depends kdemultimedia
> > [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
> > kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
> > root@smoker / #
>
> For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
> no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
> emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
> earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
> not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
> to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
> don't work at all.

You will need to go through a process of removing all packages that have arts 
as a dependency.  Noatun is one of them.  If you really want to use noatun or 
noatun-plugins, I am afraid you have to also emerge arts in your system.

I've been through all this some months ago on different machines - you can 
read more here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/180433
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 22 June 2007, Dale wrote:
> I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
>
> something.  See this:
> > root@smoker / # equery depends kdemultimedia
> > [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
> > kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
> > root@smoker / #

It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package. 
That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires 
arts. if that's the case, the only way out I'm afraid is the long way 
round - unmerge kdemultimedia, and merge kdemultimedia-meta with 
USE="-arts xine"

> For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I
> have no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some
> thing to emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the
> error earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that
> it could not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why
> I told it to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and
> some sounds don't work at all.

KDE works just fine without arts & noatun, with amarok, alsa and a 
decent sound card. That's how mine is set up and it's been like that 
since, oh I dunno, 3.5? So it can be gotten to work with a minimum of 
effort. 

alan



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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alex Schuster]

Alan McKinnon writes:

> It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
> That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
> arts.

I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.

root@knork ~ --> eix -I kdemultimedia
[I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
     Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
     Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode 
alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD 
encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis 
xine -xinerama)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...

root@knork ~ --> eix -I noatun
No matches found.

root@knork ~ --> equery depends noatun
[ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Elias Probst]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 15:38:49 Alex Schuster wrote:
> Alan McKinnon writes:
> > It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
> > That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
> > arts.
>
> I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.
>
> root@knork ~ --> eix -I kdemultimedia
> [I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode
> alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD
> encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis
> xine -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...
>
> root@knork ~ --> eix -I noatun
> No matches found.
>
> root@knork ~ --> equery depends noatun
> [ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]
>
> 	Alex

You didn't understand the difference between kdemultimedia and 
kdemultimedia-meta.
Read this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml ;-)

Regards, Elias P.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 13:20, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> OK.  That was already done as well.  However, I killed the process and
>> went there to hit the test sound button.  I went back and artsd was
>> running again plus a new one.
>>
>>     
>>> root@smoker / # ps aux | grep arts
>>> dale     15246  2.2  1.3  28776 13816 ?        S    07:08   0:00
>>> kcmshell [kdeinit] arts
>>> dale     15253  2.5  0.7  20284  7572 ?        Sl   07:08   0:00
>>> /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 1 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l
>>> 3 -f
>>> root     15264  0.0  0.0   1656   476 pts/6    R+   07:08   0:00 grep
>>> --colour=auto arts
>>> root@smoker / #
>>>
>>>       
>> I'm not using noatun, it appears that that is what KDE is using or
>>
>> something.  See this:
>>     
>>> root@smoker / # equery depends kdemultimedia
>>> [ Searching for packages depending on kdemultimedia... ]
>>> kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.7 (~kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.7)
>>> root@smoker / #
>>>       
>> For some reason, KDE is REQUIRING arts and noatun on my system.  I have
>> no idea why.  Also, since removing arts, I can not get some thing to
>> emerge because the arts flag has been removed.  I posted the error
>> earlier.  Maybe it was noatun.  I know KDE was complaining that it could
>> not find it when I had no sound at all though.  Which is why I told it
>> to use mplayer.  Now it is just slow to play a sound and some sounds
>> don't work at all.
>>     
>
> You will need to go through a process of removing all packages that have arts 
> as a dependency.  Noatun is one of them.  If you really want to use noatun or 
> noatun-plugins, I am afraid you have to also emerge arts in your system.
>
> I've been through all this some months ago on different machines - you can 
> read more here:
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/180433
>   

Well, my previous email about logging out and back in has not made it
back yet.  I logged out and back in and things are better.  But there is
one thing that still bugs me.

If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop. 

I also noticed earlier this morning that someone hit me up on Kopete,
the one app that has been working so far, and I was changing desktops. 
The desktop sound played fine but the only way I knew Kopete opened a
chat window was that it turned the button blue at the bottom.  It could
not play a sound for Kopete since something else had it in use I guess. 
I can play a CD and the other sounds work fine.  It just seems that KDE
can only play one sound and that it has to wait a few seconds before it
can play anything else.

This is my card info:

> root@smoker / # cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [Live           ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live [Unknown]
>                       SB Live [Unknown] (rev.10, serial:0x80671102) at
> 0xcc00, irq 11
> root@smoker / #


Any ideas on this one?   At least we made progress. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 22 June 2007, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Alan McKinnon writes:
> > It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
> > That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
> > arts.
>
> I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.
>
> root@knork ~ --> eix -I kdemultimedia
> [I] kde-base/kdemultimedia
>      Available versions:  (3.5)  3.5.5 ~3.5.6 ~3.5.7
>      Installed versions:  3.5.5(3.5)(20:25:05 04/19/07)(-akode
> alsa -arts -audiofile -debug -elibc_FreeBSD
> encode -flac -gstreamer -kdeenablefinal -mp3 -theora vorbis
> xine -xinerama)
>      Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
>      Description:         KDE multimedia apps: Noatun, KsCD, Juk...
>
> root@knork ~ --> eix -I noatun
> No matches found.
>
> root@knork ~ --> equery depends noatun
> [ Searching for packages depending on noatun... ]
>
> 	Alex

You do have noatun binaries installed, but it's part of the huge 
humunguous kdemultmedia package, which is NOT a meta package

If you install kdemultimedia-meta instead, it installs a bunch of 
individual packages, one of which is kde-base/noatun

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Mick]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 15:06, Dale wrote:

> If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
> noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
> selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
> first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
> them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop.

I have noticed this too with KDE system sounds; e.g. when two notifications 
come up in quick succession when I login to a secure site and I click on them 
quickly, then only one sound is heard.

No idea why this happens.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Alex Schuster]

Alan McKinnon writes:

> On Friday 22 June 2007, Alex Schuster wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon writes:
> > > It would appear that you have installed the kdemultimedia package.
> > > That's a monlithic one, and it WILL install noatun, which requires
> > > arts.
> >
> > I also have kdemultimedia installed, but not noatun.
[...]
> You do have noatun binaries installed, but it's part of the huge
> humunguous kdemultmedia package, which is NOT a meta package

Okay, I forgot about the noatun package being for non-monolithic KDE 
installs only. TZhanks also to Elias for pointing that out.

But still I cannot find any noatun binary on my system:

wonko@knork ~ --> equery files kdemultimedia | grep noatun
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/common
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/index.cache.bz2
/usr/kde/3.5/share/doc/HTML/en/noatun/index.docbook

wonko@knork ~ --> noatun
bash: noatun: command not found

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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Sabyasachi Ghosh]

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I usually disable the kde sound system and use a command line player (like
aplay or mplayer) for the event notifications..seems to work fine with me..

On 6/19/07, Thierry de Coulon <tcoulon@decoulon.ch> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've managed to emerge the gentoo base, X and KDE and all are running
> fine. My
> last problem is sound. After several attemps (with the kernel ALSA module
> and
> ALSA-driver), I've got my SB Live correctly loaded with ALSA Driver - at
> least there is no error message. I didn't load any module explicitely. The
> system loads emu10K1-gp
>
> However, I have no sound. The KDE control center does show options for
> midi on
> the SB Live 5.1, I've unmuted everything I could in alsamixer, kmix shows
> there is a sound device there.
>
> But kinfocenter says there is no information about the sound device, and
> when
> I start Amarok,  it says there is "no suitable demux plugin".
>
> Everything has been compiled with the arts and oggvorbis flags, and I did
> an
> emerge -e word to ensure everything had been compiled with the actual
> flags.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thierry
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound (?) but no sound

[Elias Probst]

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On Friday 22 June 2007 16:38:35 Mick wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2007 15:06, Dale wrote:
> > If it wants to play more than one sound, it only plays one.  One way I
> > noticed this is if I put my mouse on the bottom where the desktop
> > selection thing is then move the wheel, it only plays one sound, the
> > first one then it can't play anymore for a few seconds.  It used to play
> > them all at the same time, if I switch through more than one desktop.
>
> I have noticed this too with KDE system sounds; e.g. when two notifications
> come up in quick succession when I login to a secure site and I click on
> them quickly, then only one sound is heard.
>
> No idea why this happens.

Maybe using "picoxine" for playing system sounds helps you. Then use 
plug:dmix:1 as ALSA output device in picoxine.

Regards, Elias P.


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